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Recording in progress.

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I like to call

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the Monday December 11th 2023 regular meeting of

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the Shoreline City Council. The order, will you please join me in the flag

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salute? But United States of America.

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Republic for which it stands, one nation.

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$100 Individual liberty and justice

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for all. Well, the clerk. Please call the roll.

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Mayor Scully President, Deputy Mayor Robertson here, Council

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member Ramsdale. President Council member Mark President

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Council member McConnell President, Council

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member, Probie Council member Roberts. Here.

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Alright Internet is a special night We are recognizing the retirement

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of outgoing council member Doris Fujioka McConnell Councilor. Would you

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care to join me down the podium.

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All right. We've got a slide show showing some high

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points from council member McConnell's career councilor. McConnell was on

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the council when I first joined 12 years ago. She has served shoreline for

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a total of 16 years, and she ties with former council member Keith McGlashan

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as the longest serving council member in the city of Shoreline. First of

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elected in 2007 and elected the next three cycles. She served as deputy

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mayor in 2019. I'm going to list some of the accomplishments that the council

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did during the course of her tenure. We are we are team and we couldn't

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have done it without her. But then, at the end of this talk, I want to mention

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a few things that Doris has done individually because she has been a force

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for the community on the council and out and about She previous to being

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on the Shoreline City council. She served on various school district to

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say variety of capacities. She developed the team gift drive to serve holiday

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Food baskets program, which is still going on today. She created the districts

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August back to school events, and it is an active Richmond Beach Community

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Association volunteer many of those activities have continued, although

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she is now on the council. As a City Council member, one of the things we

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can do is volunteer to serve on regional boards and committees endorses

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stepped up and gone above and beyond the call of duty. Serving on the regional

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water Quality Community Committee the domestic violence in its task force

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and the sea Shore Transportation Forum, which required to do something I

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would never do, which is get up at seven AM for regular meeting down here

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at City Hall. Ah, yeah. Nationally, she served on the board of the Asian

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because Civic American municipal officials Constituency group, the Advisory

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council and the transportation and Infrastructure Services Committee has

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also served on the National League of Cities board. During her time on the

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council. Doris has been part of many of our significant compliments back

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in 2006. She helped pack past the first parks Bond recently, she helped

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pass and renewal of that bond. Completed phases two and three of the Aurora

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quarter project worked with sound transit in many other partners on making

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light rail a reality and shoreline. Partnered with the King County District

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Court to create community court in the Resource center and shoreline and

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help develop shorelines Innovative radar program now called Racer, which

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mental health practitioners in the field to respond to emergencies. She

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was also on council along with most of us when during the pandemic we helped

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distribute relief funds to small businesses provided grocery cliff cards

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to families in need, need and operated a number of other life saving and

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many cases programs. There is fair to say that the shoreline of today is

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a very different shorelines to endorse first joined the council and she

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could and should take credit for many of those accomplishments. I want to

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speak just for a minute on third Doris's personal value to me. She's always

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a person I've turned to when I was wanted to hear the voice of the community

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that might not be showing up to counsel meetings. She is so well connected

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not only to her neighborhood but to the city, and there's so many different

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folks in so many different groups that I could count on her to say Yes.

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You're hearing one thing, but here's what some other folks are saying. Here's

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what else? You have to take a count on As she puts it most of her work also

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is not up on the diets. It's out in the community. On a regular basis we

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would have very qualified candidates apply for some of our volunteer boards

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and commissions because Doris found them and recruited them and did the

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work to convince them hopefully with honesty. How how much work they were

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getting into and how they can help make the city a better place. I'm honored

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to have served with Doris through all of those iterations. And I'm sure

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she is going to remain a very active member of our team unity as she moves

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into retirement from the council. Doors. Would you like to say anything?

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Sure. Thank you mayor. But keep Thanks. Thank you? Yes? I was on that committee

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to get you in planning Commission and several other people. Um, now I can

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some other stories can be told I actually was a co chair for one of the

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props that I I am very glad to see you will never see my name on it because

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I think it needs to be. Our community driven. I also did convince other

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people to run and other places that were really important for the city and

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those accomplishments. Even now, I just say in whispers, because it really

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is about what I feel the community wants from all of us, and, um A 16 years

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have been such a great learning experience. We're all different. We all

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come from many different, um, neighborhoods and weighs of lifestyle. And

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and I can't Let me. Let me. I forgot. I cannot say thank you to the staff.

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Enough. Ah! I got one phone call. From Nathan. As I was was trying to get

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back here from landing from New York City, and he took the time out to call

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me. Uh, but but I know, I've had many individual interactions with staff

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members, and you are so lucky. The city of shoreline to have all those great

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people. That will continue long after we're all gone, So. Thank you. Council

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member Happy to present you with the plaque Commemorating your service.

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Thank you. Thank you all Next up is approval of the agenda. Council

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member of Kobe has already requested that item. Seven C. Pulled

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from the consent Salander, which is the construction contract for 1

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45th Street that will now become action Item eight. A. Are there any other

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requested changes to the agenda. Alright seeing none. The modified agenda is

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approved unanimously. Next step is reported the city manager Mr Ellington.

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Yes. Good Evening Council. The Shoreline Farmers market will hold a special

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harvest market event on Saturday December 16th. Visit the market from 10

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A.m. M 2:02 P.m. at the regular location on 190 seconds

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and Arora to stock up on the winter produce. Listen to live music warm up

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with coffee shop for artists in made gifts for more information, visit short

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line farmers market dot org. The extended forecast. Does it show

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any sign of a snow or

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ice. But given that this is our last meeting

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for awhile, I'd like to give some storm prep reminders as we

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head into the official start of the winter months. City staff are trained and

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ready to respond to any weather. Winter weather that may come our way and we

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meet, want to make sure are residents are too When Snow Falls. We

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Focus on plowing primary routes to keep them clear

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for transit commuters and emergency vehicles. Only when

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snow stops falling and primary routes are clear. We will

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start on secondary routes and then neighborhood streets.

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Please remember that it's a responsibility of the property owner to shovel

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there, sidewalks. To see our plow routes and get tips on preparing

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for power outages, Snowstorms. Windstorms and heavy

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rain. Please visit shoreline wh DOT gov report

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slashed or my e Hmm.

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All city facilities will be closed for the holidays

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on December, 25th and January, 1st Richmond

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Highlands Recreation Eric senator will also be closed

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on December 23rd. But still it e closure information can

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be found on the city's website at Shoreline w

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a dot gov for it slash calendar.

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The final meeting of the year will be the Planning

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Commission, who will meet on December 21st take

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the calendar Web calendar as we get closer to that meeting for the agenda

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and meeting information. Will be back here for council on Monday, January

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8th for first meeting in 2024. And finally, from all of us

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at City Hall, or like to wish everyone in the city of short line

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healthy, happy and safe holiday season and that concludes the

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city managers report. Thank you, Mr Ellington. Next up is council reports.

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Are there any council reports council member Mark Thank you mayor

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I attended the regional water

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quality meeting and the main topic

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There was a pushing to

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get the wastewater services plan

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updated from the City Council. I also

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attended the solid Waste Advisory

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Committee and where they had a presentation about enforcement.

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And. Lastly. Our was delighted to go to the

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Shoreline Historical Museum. Milwaukee Forest event

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It was really energizing to see so many

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people so interested in that project. Thank you, mayor. Other

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Council report Arts I had a couple of things

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I attended the sound. Citi's Association annual meeting where

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we recognized a bunch of retiring council members systems

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significant change across the county and the composition of New City

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councils. I think all incoming ones also attended the New York for the retiring

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council members and wish luck to all the hopeful that shoreline can be inspired

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by that and do similar projects in our existing Parkland. Finally, the cold

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weather shelter is not yet operational, but it is we're working with Casey

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are to get it online and the interim shoreline officers are being police

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officers are being provided with vouchers. So let folks who are out in the

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streets during cold weather events. Get a hotel room for the night. The

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officers had previously been doing that out of their own pockets and wanted

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to thank them for that, and hopefully this temporary measure won't be in

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place to long will be able to get the permanent shelter stamps stood up.

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Next up is public comment. It's an opportunity for members of the public

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to address us on any item on the agenda or of city concern. We asked that

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comments be limited to to minutes each and we gonna do the in person folks

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who have signed up in advance first, then the remote folks who have signed

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up and then at the end of take anyone else in person who's not signed up.

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We have a number of people signed up in total. It will exceed our normal

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30 Minutes Timeline deputy mayor and move that we extend the public comment

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period to allow for everyone who's signed up second in the opposition. Right

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seeing none. Everyone will get a chance to speak for two minutes. Simple

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Chuck Smith, will you please administer the comment period? Yes, We have

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four people who are in person to see evening signed up if after I call your

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name if you would line up by the podium, that would be great. So, Joe Levin.

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Theresa Richards. Kurt Chamberlain and Marilyn. Um Good evening, counselor

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Joe Levine Shoreline. Uh, Thank you and Doris. Thank you for all your years

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of service Council. I'd like to comment on on 996 proposed ordinance for

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Tenant protections. Affordable housing provider and shoreline for 20 years.

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I also have firsthand experience with this similar ordinance in Kenmore.

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We operate apartments there affordable housing. When kill more passed a

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very similar ordinance here and a half ago to share some experiences with

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you for consideration and some suggested changes to the ordinates. The Social.

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Security number is problematic restricting Social Security numbers. We had

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a problem with With crime on the increase we had. Ah, there were crime rings

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we had had to screen We've had issues with drug range fentanyl we've had

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issues with That we had a kidnapper. The problem is despite what you might

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hear, we cannot screen background checks and criminal checks without

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a social security number. It is not effective. We had now out of

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state convict. We could not screen without that Social security number.

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Furthermore, and it puts women and Children that risk. Quite. Frankly, it

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scares me. You can't the credit bureaus will not do credit checks

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without a social security number? That's just a fact you can talk to this tenant

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screening companies. I ask you to please remove this from the ordinance

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is far as caps on late fees. We did research a number as

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you know, state of Washington is 10% Gap

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King County is 10 per cent cap on late fees City a

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short line wastewater is 10% cap. I can go on

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or mortgage payments for 10% to ask.

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Landlords to be restricted to 1.5, or

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3%, his onerous in quite frankly, singles

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us out. We can't make our payments if we don't get paid

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on time. We also ask you to remove that from the

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ordinance, or at least put 10% on the ordinate.

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Furthermore, we thank you very much.

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Good evening. My name is Teresa Richards

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and speaking on Agenda. Item, nine, a I'm a

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designated representative for black Brant L L C, which is the property

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owner at 163 to 5 5th Avenue northeast. Black

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brand became a part of this community when it inquired the property in

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2013. We least, are facility to a transportation subcontractor

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of King County Metro and are in the city welcomed us into

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the community. Advertising or tenants presence and services

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which provide transportation for the disabled and elderly residents

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of this community. Black Brant is a joint venture between two or less

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a native corporations and manage is real estate investments, and it's purpose is

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to provide profits for the benefit of our shoulders. Shareholders, many

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of whom are in POV wrist when the city heard that we had decided to put

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our property up for sale, they suddenly declared that our property was not

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in compliance with the code. What? We don't believe the current proposed

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transit bus based regulations would have apply to R site. We continue to

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be dismayed by the city's actions, including and enforcement action against

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black Brant and the current moratorium on accepting permits for transit

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bus basis. These actions have directly caused US financial harm. Um and

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that will likely continue if the city moves forward with the proposed development

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standards for major and minor fleet bases as they are clearly intended to

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disallow the continued use on our property. We disagree that the city can

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legally required the current used to cease, but we would like to avoid the

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uncertainty and cost of litigation. I'm better approach that can satisfy

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all parties would be to modify the proposed regulations so that the current

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use could continue. But under specific conditions applicable to acceptable

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to the city and Metro that would provide certainty to all parties about

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the outcome of this issue. To truly advance Council goal one, The council

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should delay any action on these amendments and direct staff to come back

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with the point proposal that has the support of black brand can county metro

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and city staff and that will allow the existing pear transit use on our

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property to continue. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Kurt

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Chamberlain. I'm, assistant general counsel for corporate governance and

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litigation for touristic ORP aeration, which is one of the parent company's

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parent partners for Black Brand Realistic Corporation, and now you corporation

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or the two partners and their Alaskan native corporations created under

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the Alaskan Native Claims Settlement Act. Ah, and their partnering in black

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Brant and they have a congressional mandate for to provide for the socio

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economic well being of their combined 50,000 Alaskan native Shareh holders.

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The shareholders all Alaskan native Are in the regions of Alaska remote

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regions of the Alaska that have the among the highest poverty rates in the

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nation and the highest cost of living in the nation. Our profits contribute

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significantly to the shareholders and form of dividends. Elder benefits,

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scholarships, burial assistance and advocacy. Um, to accomplish this mandate.

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We must be commercially successful and adaptive. The challenge we've encountered

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with our property and shoreline has for all intents and purposes frozen

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in asset and prevent potentially devalued it not to mention tying up tying

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us up in costly tank time consuming litigation. We fundamentally disagree

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that the city can cease the use it legally permitted with full understanding

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of the facts. All evidence suggests that the state city understood and authorized

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The extent the existing use by by permit. And the use is not changed in

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the decades since its started operations, the city's

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current enforcement action, therefore, is the due process violation exposes

00:17:59.703 --> 00:18:01.703
the city to liability instead of taking additional actions that could further

00:18:03.941 --> 00:18:05.941
financially harmed black Brant. The City should rethink its position staff

00:18:08.450 --> 00:18:10.450
should be directed to include black branch site in the list of eligible

00:18:12.816 --> 00:18:14.816
properties for future major and minor fleet bases and work with black Brenton

00:18:17.454 --> 00:18:19.454
Metro. To devise development standards in the past for that's in the best

00:18:23.327 --> 00:18:25.327
interests of all parties. Thank you, thank you.

00:18:27.364 --> 00:18:29.364
Good evening Council. I'm, Marilyn. Um, I just wanted to speak to

00:18:31.936 --> 00:18:33.936
the tenant protections are going to discuss tonight and look ahead and learn

00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.440
from the experience that we have had of meeting over the last several weeks.

00:18:40.911 --> 00:18:42.911
I wanted to talk about it because you guys have mentioned that this is the

00:18:45.216 --> 00:18:47.216
beginning. This isn't the end of it, And so I kind of wanted to look at

00:18:49.520 --> 00:18:51.520
what our relationship is going to be like in the future Since. I'm, a small

00:18:53.991 --> 00:18:55.991
Landlord and I own one rental property in the city of Shoreline. Um, I'd

00:18:58.529 --> 00:19:00.529
like us to really approach each other with good faith and assume that each

00:19:03.670 --> 00:19:05.670
other has good intent and will collaborative collaboratively with the problem

00:19:07.204 --> 00:19:09.204
solving attitude. We should be talking to two people and not just about

00:19:12.760 --> 00:19:14.760
us. Please involve us. The people who are affected involved in the policy

00:19:16.213 --> 00:19:18.213
making. Um, we're real people, and we're right here, so I'd really like

00:19:20.851 --> 00:19:22.851
us to be involved in a very productive way and constructive way. For instance,

00:19:25.222 --> 00:19:27.222
it would be nice to have a Penhall of subject matter. Experts for Q and

00:19:29.360 --> 00:19:31.360
a to learn about actual business practices in the impacts of policy. I'd

00:19:33.764 --> 00:19:35.764
really encourage not just the council but city staff to avoid politically

00:19:38.369 --> 00:19:40.369
loaded and charged language that gets back to good faith intent. And know

00:19:43.107 --> 00:19:45.107
what problem that we're trying to solve and stay focused on that we should

00:19:47.344 --> 00:19:49.344
be curious. Ask questions and investigating perform due diligence and breakthrough

00:19:51.782 --> 00:19:53.782
jargon. Um, ask whether the proposal will solve the problem or will it have

00:19:56.220 --> 00:19:58.220
on intended and unwanted consequences, especially for smaller operators

00:20:00.424 --> 00:20:02.424
for older residents, residents who are trying to offer their homes for rental

00:20:04.828 --> 00:20:06.828
housing. Just because other cities have passed a similar policy doesn't

00:20:08.999 --> 00:20:10.999
mean that shoreline has to, really It's simple, not too. Look at the results.

00:20:13.237 --> 00:20:15.237
What are the results has it resulted in more housing? Has it resulted in

00:20:17.541 --> 00:20:19.541
making housing more affordable. I'm hoping that we can work together productively

00:20:22.790 --> 00:20:24.790
towards city that keeps the pathways toward property ownership in the specially

00:20:32.523 --> 00:20:34.523
rental property ownership available for regular people. Like me by pocket

00:20:36.560 --> 00:20:38.560
immigrant folks like my husband, but making it all viable and welcoming

00:20:40.998 --> 00:20:42.998
for everyone. Thank you so much for your time. I'm Thank you. Okay, so switching

00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:47.369
to online we first have Carter Nelson. Hello. Can you hear me? Whenever,

00:20:50.700 --> 00:20:52.700
you're ready. All right. Good evening, Mayor Scully and members of the council.

00:20:54.345 --> 00:20:56.345
Thank you for allowing me to speak tonight. My name is Carter Nelson and

00:20:58.615 --> 00:21:00.615
I'm speaking on behalf of the Washington multi family housing is so association

00:21:03.870 --> 00:21:05.870
otherwise known as one to represent over 328,000 rental units in the state,

00:21:07.491 --> 00:21:09.491
and I remember own or manage over 3800 rid you nits in short line. We first

00:21:12.162 --> 00:21:14.162
wanted to extend our gratitude to the mayor and members of council who met

00:21:16.767 --> 00:21:18.767
with a few of our operators in shoreline to hear their concerns with some

00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.400
of these proposals. We appreciate your time and willingness to discuss.

00:21:25.476 --> 00:21:27.476
We also wanted to thanks staff for some of the proposed amendments tonight

00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:31.880
at all for more palatable alternatives to the originally proposed ordinance

00:21:34.551 --> 00:21:36.551
as an organ is a Shin doesn't support capping fees. We Appreciate Amendment

00:21:39.123 --> 00:21:41.123
number two in raising the proposed cap on late sees 2 3%, as opposed to

00:21:43.761 --> 00:21:45.761
1.5 half while this is still too low, and not an equitable cap to the late

00:21:48.265 --> 00:21:50.265
fees housing providers face, we would like this amendment to be a adopted

00:21:52.603 --> 00:21:54.603
its council passes a cat. Tonight. Although we find the entire liability

00:21:57.241 --> 00:21:59.241
Section Unnecessary Amendment. Number eight is a fighting change regarding

00:22:01.745 --> 00:22:03.745
landlord viability to the original proposed right of that action, and we

00:22:06.490 --> 00:22:08.490
we would like to see it adopted if the section is passed by council tonight,

00:22:10.521 --> 00:22:12.521
we're in strong opposition to the alternative amendments number nine and

00:22:14.958 --> 00:22:16.958
10 as they place all the risk on the housing provider in the wording of

00:22:19.163 --> 00:22:21.163
the section is still ambiguous the residential and Lord tended act. Or the

00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:25.600
R L T A doesn't add a quick job providing residents statewide protections

00:22:27.905 --> 00:22:29.905
while we know that this proposal as well intentioned, burdensome regulatory

00:22:32.309 --> 00:22:34.309
environment, places, increased risk and costs on the owners providing housing

00:22:36.914 --> 00:22:38.914
housing providers are already seeing there. Operating costs increased exponentially

00:22:41.385 --> 00:22:43.385
as insurance costs and other expenses continue to rise. We Caution council

00:22:46.490 --> 00:22:48.490
considering adopting any protections as these additional regulations will

00:22:53.397 --> 00:22:55.397
this incentive eyes further investments in your city? The focus should be

00:23:01.472 --> 00:23:03.472
helping residents to know what rights and Sections they already have. And

00:23:05.976 --> 00:23:07.976
working together to get and keep people in the community house. Thank you,

00:23:10.747 --> 00:23:12.747
thank you. Next is Paula Middleton. However, I do not see her in the list

00:23:15.850 --> 00:23:17.850
of the attendees. Miss Middleton. If you're here. Please raise your hand.

00:23:19.490 --> 00:23:21.490
Okay, We're going to go to ST Newton. Yes. Send me, Um Greetings Council

00:23:23.594 --> 00:23:25.594
members. Uh I'm Speaking in opposition of Ordinance 996 Um, there's some

00:23:28.131 --> 00:23:30.131
things in there that I think are Truly trouble, Cem. I think that the effect

00:23:32.836 --> 00:23:34.836
of the private right of action, which are the 89 and 10 amendments that

00:23:37.174 --> 00:23:39.174
we were talking about a moment ago with it's draconian fees and court costs.

00:23:41.378 --> 00:23:43.378
It's going to run mom and pop landlords out of the market. So those rental

00:23:45.649 --> 00:23:47.649
houses that everybody wants their cheap, which just gonna disappear. They're

00:23:50.120 --> 00:23:52.120
going to get sold to somebody is going to buy a house and your rental stock

00:23:54.725 --> 00:23:56.725
is going to be corporate land ords who charged much higher ends, Um The

00:23:59.960 --> 00:24:01.960
other thing is Marginal applicants will be directly impacted rational housing

00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:05.600
people providers will raise their criteria right because you're going to

00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:10.380
make payments over six months because of late fears next to nothing, because

00:24:12.242 --> 00:24:14.242
so as a landlord, what you do is just say, Gosh, I want to deal with people

00:24:16.713 --> 00:24:18.713
that won't be late. I want to tell the people that I don't care about the

00:24:21.218 --> 00:24:23.218
six months if they make payments because they'll make them And so we will

00:24:25.756 --> 00:24:27.756
demand is higher Credit scores higher income to rent ratios Marginal people

00:24:30.193 --> 00:24:32.193
will get left out. They won't have a spot to sit in the musical chairs game.

00:24:34.498 --> 00:24:36.498
And the so as a husband for part of my job is to run a background check

00:24:39.102 --> 00:24:41.102
so I can provide some safety. At least foster safety in in my So we get

00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.440
to drivers license, but there we got a crack check in those two names match

00:24:47.711 --> 00:24:49.711
if I can can't do that, I can't really know who the person is. And. I really

00:24:52.820 --> 00:24:54.820
want to not rent to people that are dangerous and there out there and so

00:24:56.353 --> 00:24:58.353
the social security number of things huge. Um, but I think the thing is

00:25:00.824 --> 00:25:02.824
it at least that bad is the private right of action. And I would ask you

00:25:05.462 --> 00:25:07.462
to please pull out of the legislation. You just sit in Housing fighters

00:25:09.933 --> 00:25:11.933
have to get sued by a Turney's Thank you very much have a lovely night.

00:25:18.475 --> 00:25:20.475
Thank you. Okay. Next is Daniel Bannon and I See that he is logged into

00:25:22.713 --> 00:25:24.713
Zoom twice, So I'm going to go with The application. See if this works You

00:25:26.984 --> 00:25:28.984
can hear me whenever you're ready. Awesome. Thank you. My name is Daniel

00:25:31.421 --> 00:25:33.421
Band I'm calling in on behalf of the rental Housing Association and Washington

00:25:35.959 --> 00:25:37.959
and over 5000 small housing friends across the state. And. I'm here today

00:25:40.297 --> 00:25:42.297
to speak to the council and encourage them to listen to the voices of their

00:25:44.635 --> 00:25:46.635
small housing providers. You people coming into the council tonight. That

00:25:48.905 --> 00:25:50.905
are telling you what they're experience has been dealing with these people,

00:25:53.744 --> 00:25:55.744
policies and other cities. They've had too modify their business practices.

00:25:58.448 --> 00:26:00.448
Other costs of increase other Ability to protect their 10 INTs has been

00:26:02.653 --> 00:26:04.653
reduced. And. I think it's important that the council listens to these voices.

00:26:07.491 --> 00:26:09.491
And takes action based on the fact that they are listening and considering

00:26:11.995 --> 00:26:13.995
these voices Rental Housing Association appreciates that the council has

00:26:16.199 --> 00:26:18.199
been interested in this cussing with them over the last couple of weeks

00:26:20.904 --> 00:26:22.904
to modify the proposed ordinance. And we encourage the council to make modifications

00:26:25.375 --> 00:26:27.375
to these ordinances with the amendments that have been proposed. But, You're

00:26:29.913 --> 00:26:31.913
hearing the truth of these housing providers right now in there Spring Ince's

00:26:34.685 --> 00:26:36.685
They're hearing how it has affected them and other cities, and it's important

00:26:38.989 --> 00:26:40.989
That based on the testimony that you've heard tonight from this housing providers

00:26:44.761 --> 00:26:46.761
we make changes. And we do what's right for the people in your city.

00:26:49.499 --> 00:26:51.499
Maintaining the safety of your residents and making sure the rental

00:26:53.537 --> 00:26:55.537
prices stay low. It should be of the utmost and important to the Shoreline

00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:00.800
City Council. And there would be unjust for the shoreline City gown cell

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.279
to not listen to the voices of it's small housing for others tonight. Please

00:27:06.683 --> 00:27:08.683
take these stories into consideration. Please understand that these people are

00:27:11.121 --> 00:27:13.121
telling you what will happen in short. And please listen to

00:27:14.858 --> 00:27:16.858
the voices of your small housing fighters. Thank you.

00:27:18.695 --> 00:27:20.695
Thank you? Thank you.

00:27:24.701 --> 00:27:26.701
Next is Bruce McClair.

00:27:27.137 --> 00:27:29.137
Yes. Hello? Can you

00:27:30.707 --> 00:27:32.707
hear me? Go ahead whenever you're ready. Good Evening Council members. Thank you

00:27:35.110 --> 00:27:37.110
for letting me speak tonight when he was Bruce McClure. I'm a property

00:27:39.616 --> 00:27:41.616
manager and shorelines Washington. I've been a property manager in shoreline

00:27:43.854 --> 00:27:45.854
for over 20 years. I am the conduit between the tenant and

00:27:47.900 --> 00:27:49.900
the landlord and I deal with Many many

00:27:50.494 --> 00:27:52.494
tenants and I deal with multiple landlords and

00:27:53.697 --> 00:27:55.697
multiple properties. The and I'm in opposition of

00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.400
996, and a lot of the things that you have in here, especially

00:28:01.371 --> 00:28:03.371
the Social. Security number issue. I have a lot of single

00:28:05.575 --> 00:28:07.575
women living in my building with Children, and they need to know that the people

00:28:09.913 --> 00:28:11.913
living next door to him or not. Good. Good Good

00:28:13.316 --> 00:28:15.316
child pedophiles, criminals. Um, they look to me to

00:28:16.653 --> 00:28:18.653
protect them, Um, also the criterias that you're

00:28:20.560 --> 00:28:22.560
putting forth in the past. I've been able

00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:26.940
to talk to a land and owner and say, Look, you know, this person

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.640
doesn't really quite might hit meet our criteria. There are a little you

00:28:32.769 --> 00:28:34.769
know the credit scores a little low. They've had some problems, but I got

00:28:37.407 --> 00:28:39.407
a good feeling about this person, and I'd like to give him a chance if you

00:28:41.745 --> 00:28:43.745
pass these laws that's gone. It's I mean it'll be over, the landlords will

00:28:45.882 --> 00:28:47.882
will say no period. No, let it sit bacon. I don't care. They either Meet

00:28:50.530 --> 00:28:52.530
my high cry at my high score criteria or they don't rent and that's not

00:28:54.658 --> 00:28:56.658
good for anybody. It's not good for the tenants. It's not good for the people

00:28:59.229 --> 00:29:01.229
who need housing and short in Washington, and it's not good for anybody.

00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:05.700
You've got a Let us Do what we do, um Believe me, we want good 10. It's

00:29:08.238 --> 00:29:10.238
You know, we want to help the people in shoreline and we want to protect

00:29:12.676 --> 00:29:14.676
single mothers with Children and these rules are you know and as far as

00:29:17.214 --> 00:29:19.214
late fees are concerned, I take care of properties outside of shore line

00:29:21.618 --> 00:29:23.618
that have gotten rid of the late views and installed $10 and all it's done

00:29:26.560 --> 00:29:28.560
is created. You know we're now we're just three paid a loans, you know?

00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.160
Because if I'm if things get tough at the end of the month, and I can't

00:29:35.332 --> 00:29:37.332
pay well, 10 bucks only cost me not to pay the land ord, So I guess I'll

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:41.769
borrow his money. Thank you for your time. Thank you next is already nurse

00:29:44.341 --> 00:29:46.341
Roddy. Hi. Hi. My name is Artie Nosrati with the Transit Riders Union, where

00:29:48.645 --> 00:29:50.645
the community organization that is supported similar to protections in similar

00:29:53.283 --> 00:29:55.283
jurisdictions. So Thank you counsel for moving forward with this discussion.

00:29:57.621 --> 00:29:59.621
I wanted to speak to her to some of the amendments that are being proposed.

00:30:01.992 --> 00:30:03.992
So one is Amendment one. We strongly support passing Amendment one c. The

00:30:06.429 --> 00:30:08.429
one considering to ban notice delivery fees. Thank you for considering our

00:30:11.234 --> 00:30:13.234
suggestion on that, and the additional effort to require transparency and

00:30:15.338 --> 00:30:17.338
address some of the kinds of rental junk fees. Amendment two. We oppose

00:30:19.843 --> 00:30:21.843
that Amendment. Other jurisdictions have calculated fees that 1.5 per cent

00:30:24.481 --> 00:30:26.481
and shoreline should at least match that standard that has been set. And

00:30:28.952 --> 00:30:30.952
this is mostly a comment for a minute and three related to him and mint

00:30:33.590 --> 00:30:35.590
three adjacent to it so Other jurisdictions have a less restrictive definition

00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:40.280
of moving fees. Um, they have not excluding prepayment of last month's rent

00:30:42.499 --> 00:30:44.499
in there or the things that have been categorized as optional rent in this

00:30:47.300 --> 00:30:49.300
legislation, so we urge the council to adopt a stronger version of that

00:30:51.274 --> 00:30:53.274
protection that that mirrors what other jurisdictions have done. Otherwise

00:30:55.412 --> 00:30:57.412
the total amount owed as I condition and moving may actually equal or exceed

00:30:59.616 --> 00:31:01.616
three months rent. And because substantial hardships. Even if in some mints

00:31:03.820 --> 00:31:05.820
are allowed an amendment for We oppose this amendment and

00:31:07.624 --> 00:31:09.624
we agree with the staff recommendation being basically

00:31:10.894 --> 00:31:12.894
that being rejected for housing for just

00:31:14.597 --> 00:31:16.597
not having the Social security number can result in significant additional

00:31:18.301 --> 00:31:20.301
costs and even homelessness and $100 does not

00:31:21.871 --> 00:31:23.871
adequately discourage that act. And so we encourage you to reject

00:31:25.875 --> 00:31:27.875
that amendment. Um and thank you again Council for considering this

00:31:31.381 --> 00:31:33.381
legislation. We hope you pass a strong version of it. Thanks. Thank you.

00:31:44.694 --> 00:31:46.694
Rebecca, near

00:31:56.206 --> 00:31:58.206
Ms near your muted

00:31:59.109 --> 00:32:01.109
Okay. I'm gonna come back

00:32:02.312 --> 00:32:04.312
to Mr near at the end.

00:32:09.919 --> 00:32:11.919
Next is Sasha Saurus.

00:32:12.756 --> 00:32:14.756
Hello. I'm here.

00:32:15.792 --> 00:32:17.792
Um, thank you very much for

00:32:19.329 --> 00:32:21.329
considering members of the public and residents. My name

00:32:22.499 --> 00:32:24.499
is Sasha Sor s and I am a member of

00:32:25.435 --> 00:32:27.435
the community. Um, here in shoreline and

00:32:28.471 --> 00:32:30.471
The Ordinance of 996 gives me

00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:33.740
great concern. As, a domestic

00:32:34.644 --> 00:32:36.644
violence survivor myself. I

00:32:37.447 --> 00:32:39.447
Rely on my management.

00:32:39.783 --> 00:32:41.783
And, my landlord to

00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.319
do screenings of people with their source security.

00:32:46.556 --> 00:32:48.556
Um, to help provide a safety.

00:32:49.826 --> 00:32:51.826
Uh, I I just don't understand.

00:32:53.163 --> 00:32:55.163
Not being able to do that it would allow my next

00:32:56.666 --> 00:32:58.666
door neighbor to be a predator to my 15 year old daughter.

00:33:00.804 --> 00:33:02.804
And. I. Just that makes me very uneasy.

00:33:03.807 --> 00:33:05.807
And the building where I live. There are

00:33:07.911 --> 00:33:09.911
seven families that live here with young Children.

00:33:11.748 --> 00:33:13.748
And we want to know. That property. We

00:33:15.418 --> 00:33:17.418
were properly screened. We want to make sure that everyone else

00:33:19.422 --> 00:33:21.422
who applies as properly screened And we want to make sure that there's

00:33:23.226 --> 00:33:25.226
not going to be 10. It's that developed crime in are units.

00:33:27.263 --> 00:33:29.263
You know, drug trafficking, human trafficking

00:33:30.266 --> 00:33:32.266
anything. Um, it puts everyone at risk.

00:33:33.736 --> 00:33:35.736
And in times where crime is so high.

00:33:37.340 --> 00:33:39.340
And. Your car gets broken into overnight. You can't

00:33:41.244 --> 00:33:43.244
do anything and call the police but file a police report online and maybe they'll

00:33:45.682 --> 00:33:47.682
do something about it. I want to make sure that my next door neighbor is

00:33:49.586 --> 00:33:51.586
not an ax, murderer or pedophile. Or is selling drugs out

00:33:53.356 --> 00:33:55.356
of our building. And so that that makes me really concerned.

00:33:57.193 --> 00:33:59.193
As for late fees. I mean everything else is really

00:34:00.630 --> 00:34:02.630
10% sent 1.5 after 3% I understand for

00:34:03.933 --> 00:34:05.933
low income families that are like on Section, eight

00:34:07.504 --> 00:34:09.504
that seems fair and reasonable. For low income

00:34:11.441 --> 00:34:13.441
families, but if you can afford the 10 per cent Why not pay the

00:34:16.112 --> 00:34:18.112
10%. Thank you? Thank you.

00:34:23.486 --> 00:34:25.486
Okay. Next is Kathleen Russell.

00:34:26.189 --> 00:34:28.189
Kathleen Russell resident of short.

00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.559
We guarding north 1

00:34:32.629 --> 00:34:34.629
45th Phase one. Safe shore line trees.

00:34:35.532 --> 00:34:37.532
Shoreline Preservations Society and the

00:34:38.568 --> 00:34:40.568
Citizens Tree group asked that the shore

00:34:41.571 --> 00:34:43.571
line sidewalks segment along North

00:34:44.841 --> 00:34:46.841
1 45th from core list to First Avenue be reduced to

00:34:48.912 --> 00:34:50.912
an 8 ft width with the 5 FT Amenity strip.

00:34:51.981 --> 00:34:53.981
The 13 ft wide or, preferably less

00:34:54.951 --> 00:34:56.951
with sidewalk within begin at First Avenue

00:34:58.288 --> 00:35:00.288
and Continue east toward the light rail station.

00:35:01.658 --> 00:35:03.658
This adjustment will re tain more of the trees from core

00:35:05.128 --> 00:35:07.128
list to just east of sunny side up to towns on

00:35:08.565 --> 00:35:10.565
1 45th town houses. The trees east

00:35:12.100 --> 00:35:14.100
of First Avenue have already been cut down

00:35:15.171 --> 00:35:17.171
for developments. And trees east of Third Avenue

00:35:18.474 --> 00:35:20.474
will be cut down for the round about

00:35:21.844 --> 00:35:23.844
183 trees. From Corliss two First Avenue is

00:35:25.148 --> 00:35:27.148
a two block length. None of the trees have been

00:35:28.751 --> 00:35:30.751
cut down a lot along this short segment, though there

00:35:32.288 --> 00:35:34.288
are active staging sites at both Corliss and sunny side corner

00:35:36.459 --> 00:35:38.459
lives now owned by the city, and we have immediate concerns

00:35:40.263 --> 00:35:42.263
about root damage to the standing trees. We asked City

00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:45.900
staff to provide information to the council. If the Mage or it

00:35:47.770 --> 00:35:49.770
e of trees can be retained from core list to First Avenue is

00:35:51.474 --> 00:35:53.474
an 8 FT wide sidewalk 5 ft. Why'd amenity

00:35:54.244 --> 00:35:56.244
strip is installed. We. Ask that

00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.480
this update B a council agenda item two

00:36:00.183 --> 00:36:02.183
ensure the public may

00:36:03.686 --> 00:36:05.686
provide comment. This adjustment would mean a continuous

00:36:06.990 --> 00:36:08.990
8 FT wide sidewalk with 5 ft wide

00:36:09.792 --> 00:36:11.792
a Minniti Strip along north

00:36:12.962 --> 00:36:14.962
145 5th from Lyndon to First Avenue.

00:36:16.266 --> 00:36:18.266
Adjustments are being made on the Seattle side

00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:21.369
of 5 FT. Wide sidewalk to retain trees

00:36:22.538 --> 00:36:24.538
and we asked for similar accommodation. Thank you

00:36:26.643 --> 00:36:28.643
for your consideration. Thank you. Next

00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.679
is Nicole Garvin. I do

00:36:32.548 --> 00:36:34.548
not see her in the list of the attendees. Nicole if

00:36:40.223 --> 00:36:42.223
you're here, can you please raise your hand?

00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.159
Okay, we're going to be moving along

00:36:48.998 --> 00:36:50.998
to Mayor Scott Lund. Can you hear

00:36:52.101 --> 00:36:54.101
me? Okay. Yes, please go ahead whenever you're ready.

00:36:56.306 --> 00:36:58.306
Okay, Great. Thanks. I wanted to come in and ordinance 996. Hi. There

00:37:00.677 --> 00:37:02.677
were three provisions that I found myself, Um, against the first

00:37:04.547 --> 00:37:06.547
one was self security requirement. Um all of my tenants. I have to

00:37:08.351 --> 00:37:10.351
do plex. I'm retired and rely on the income from the do plex

00:37:12.155 --> 00:37:14.155
as well as so. Security to support myself, So it's an important item

00:37:15.692 --> 00:37:17.692
to me. I have five tenants and that

00:37:18.361 --> 00:37:20.361
To US sweet building, and there

00:37:21.397 --> 00:37:23.397
all roommates. And, the Social security number is

00:37:24.867 --> 00:37:26.867
critical because it allows me to have a very

00:37:28.404 --> 00:37:30.404
transparent fair system when I value eight applicants for rent.

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.800
I have a minimum credit score number, and

00:37:35.144 --> 00:37:37.144
that's where that really well. It's been a great system

00:37:38.414 --> 00:37:40.414
for both the prospects and myself.

00:37:41.517 --> 00:37:43.517
And secondly, Because the roommates are

00:37:44.854 --> 00:37:46.854
there They are not privy to each other's financial condition

00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:51.920
but they are under the lease required to They're obligated to pay

00:37:53.796 --> 00:37:55.796
the rent. So if we don't have a really clear, transparent

00:37:57.660 --> 00:37:59.660
System, then the roommates become at risk

00:38:00.703 --> 00:38:02.703
of each other. So really important to have that.

00:38:04.640 --> 00:38:06.640
Um I would say that private right of action is pretty scary

00:38:08.745 --> 00:38:10.745
You know, as a retired person, I look at that. I think I can't afford to

00:38:15.585 --> 00:38:17.585
4 to $500 an hour attorney to support you know

00:38:19.188 --> 00:38:21.188
to, um countered false claims about any of the provisions under

00:38:23.226 --> 00:38:25.226
the lease. It's really Draconian. I'm Not. Sure why it's even there are

00:38:27.430 --> 00:38:29.430
necessary. And thirdly, late fees. I really think they need to be high enough

00:38:31.667 --> 00:38:33.667
to make a difference otherwise You, really allowing the tenant to say. Uh,

00:38:36.380 --> 00:38:38.380
gee, I don't want to pay the rent for a while. And. Maybe there's some other

00:38:40.209 --> 00:38:42.209
conditions that I don't want to abide by as well. Now, I will say and 10

00:38:44.347 --> 00:38:46.347
years of being a landlord I've never had to assess a late the tenants are

00:38:48.818 --> 00:38:50.818
a little bit late. I. Just let that go. If they're going to be late for

00:38:52.955 --> 00:38:54.955
a while. While, then I will have a conversation and we work out a placement

00:38:57.960 --> 00:38:59.960
plan or well extend the payment for a while. While so Anyway, Those are

00:39:02.265 --> 00:39:04.265
my comments. Thank you. Nancy Morris. Yes. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes! Go

00:39:06.469 --> 00:39:08.469
ahead whenever you're ready. Right? Yes, this Seymour is Shoreline resident. We

00:39:11.700 --> 00:39:13.700
currently face continued global actions of total disregard to the climate crisis

00:39:14.811 --> 00:39:16.811
that our current cop 28 climate summit in

00:39:18.314 --> 00:39:20.314
Dubai that ends to Morrow. I truly disheartening. So

00:39:22.718 --> 00:39:24.718
What should we all be doing in this period of rapid climate change?

00:39:26.956 --> 00:39:28.956
We must continue to do what we can locally what other choices do caring

00:39:31.327 --> 00:39:33.327
and form people have One thing The City can do is listen to the best science on

00:39:35.665 --> 00:39:37.665
ways to mitigate the climate crisis. We should be saving all the established

00:39:39.602 --> 00:39:41.602
mature, mature trees We can and in a dish in to you till ISA

00:39:43.673 --> 00:39:45.673
best planning and design for building and transportation projects in

00:39:48.100 --> 00:39:50.100
our warming city that honor our natural environment. We all know there is an

00:39:52.615 --> 00:39:54.615
urgent goal to reduce Co two missions and air pollution from all sources

00:39:56.786 --> 00:39:58.786
which includes reduce car use it and the city In

00:40:00.857 --> 00:40:02.857
particular transportation projects were planned several years ago. Those

00:40:04.994 --> 00:40:06.994
in charge did not consider the importance of established trees and other

00:40:09.198 --> 00:40:11.198
natural living environments, destroying the hundreds of our established

00:40:13.903 --> 00:40:15.903
trees and urban canopy throughout the city and along the street, right aways.

00:40:18.474 --> 00:40:20.474
Does not exemplify the best city planning in the midst of climate crisis. Better

00:40:22.812 --> 00:40:24.812
planning could have saved many of these trees slated for destruction on

00:40:27.316 --> 00:40:29.316
the shore line. North 1 45th Street side, many people question the need

00:40:31.153 --> 00:40:33.153
for a 13 ft sidewalk when 8 ft would likely serve ice.

00:40:34.724 --> 00:40:36.724
And I'd like to end by saying I would like to thank

00:40:38.694 --> 00:40:40.694
council member Doris for all your service over the years

00:40:43.165 --> 00:40:45.165
and I wish you the very best in your future in Devers. Thank you

00:40:46.335 --> 00:40:48.335
very much. Thank you.

00:40:48.738 --> 00:40:50.738
Okay. So last on

00:40:52.842 --> 00:40:54.842
the list is Girma Kelly. However

00:40:55.711 --> 00:40:57.711
I do not see him in the list of the

00:40:58.470 --> 00:41:00.470
10 D's either.

00:41:00.883 --> 00:41:02.883
Alright was Mr Blackwell s strike.

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:06.530
He asked me removed from the list. So now I

00:41:07.623 --> 00:41:09.623
do see that Rebecca was raising her hand

00:41:10.660 --> 00:41:12.660
She's here I can admit her to speak, Please

00:41:15.765 --> 00:41:17.765
Thank you.

00:41:19.869 --> 00:41:21.869
Missing here. Go ahead. Yes. Can. You hear me, Okay?

00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:25.500
Yes go ahead. Okay, Great. Thank

00:41:26.275 --> 00:41:28.275
you? Ah, my name is Rebecca near and I have owned

00:41:29.645 --> 00:41:31.645
an operated a tenant and I'm ploy Mint screening Company

00:41:33.616 --> 00:41:35.616
and Washington state since 1995. Below is my opinion

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:39.860
on why it is a mistake from the for the city

00:41:40.823 --> 00:41:42.823
of shore line to take away the use of Social security numbers from

00:41:45.962 --> 00:41:47.962
rental app. Click ations. I'm reading from a paper that I wrote earlier

00:41:50.433 --> 00:41:52.433
today. Uh, affordable housing taking away Social Security numbers will

00:41:54.337 --> 00:41:56.337
cost tenants more money. One when a background check his process

00:41:58.407 --> 00:42:00.407
the number one thing that happens in the credit report, the

00:42:02.278 --> 00:42:04.278
number one thing that happens is the credit report is pulled if

00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:08.820
the applicant has not provided that Social Security number on the

00:42:10.553 --> 00:42:12.553
rental application, the credit Bureau will not provide a credit report.

00:42:14.924 --> 00:42:16.924
There are few exceptions. Number two, the Credit Bureau has now already

00:42:18.995 --> 00:42:20.995
One sweep of their database without a social security number for

00:42:23.265 --> 00:42:25.265
this applicant and credit data was not provided

00:42:26.435 --> 00:42:28.435
However, since there is no credit found the

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:31.739
credit bureau now charges the tenant screening company

00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:35.900
for the attempted credit report. So what

00:42:36.780 --> 00:42:38.780
happens then, is now a landlord is required

00:42:39.715 --> 00:42:41.715
a correct needs a credit history and the land

00:42:43.619 --> 00:42:45.619
Lord now needs to contact the applicants and re mind them A

00:42:47.323 --> 00:42:49.323
history of credit is is required to be reviewed and

00:42:50.926 --> 00:42:52.926
a credit report is required to make a decision on

00:42:54.363 --> 00:42:56.363
financial history Number two an applicant now understands

00:42:57.933 --> 00:42:59.933
why the Social security number is needed. And pays

00:43:01.337 --> 00:43:03.337
an additional $25 to pull the credit

00:43:04.730 --> 00:43:06.730
report the second time

00:43:07.143 --> 00:43:09.143
applicant screening report now takes in a dish Inal

00:43:10.346 --> 00:43:12.346
day or longer to process and has cost

00:43:13.449 --> 00:43:15.449
more money. The Credit report is attempted

00:43:16.318 --> 00:43:18.318
once again and usually retreat, safe

00:43:19.388 --> 00:43:21.388
housing with the Social security number. Meet

00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.159
Mr nightmare. He's a registered sex offender in New York

00:43:27.930 --> 00:43:29.930
He's raped a one year old in the first degree. Thank. Thank you.

00:43:31.634 --> 00:43:33.634
We needed to Social Security number to find that in

00:43:35.738 --> 00:43:37.738
your time is up. Thank you. Alright. Is there any one else in person who

00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:42.900
is not spoken who would like to speak Right. Thank you. I'm gonna close the

00:43:44.113 --> 00:43:46.113
public comment period. Next up is the consent calendar

00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:50.250
missing items. Seven. See, which is known action item, Deputy Mayor. I move

00:43:52.888 --> 00:43:54.888
approval of the amended consent calendar. So. Can that please call

00:43:56.459 --> 00:43:58.459
the vote there, Scully. Hi. Deputy Mayor Robertson

00:43:59.995 --> 00:44:01.995
I council member Ramsdale. I. Remember Mark

00:44:03.132 --> 00:44:05.132
Council member McConnell, I Council

00:44:06.135 --> 00:44:08.135
member, Po B Council member, Roberts. Hi

00:44:09.839 --> 00:44:11.839
that consent counter as amended passes you Nan Imus Lee. Next up

00:44:14.243 --> 00:44:16.243
is action item 88, which is Authorization of the city management to

00:44:17.947 --> 00:44:19.947
execute a construction contract related to 100 and

00:44:29.625 --> 00:44:31.625
45th Street corridor. Looks like this junkie is going to present

00:44:35.865 --> 00:44:37.865
In Mr now

00:44:40.603 --> 00:44:42.603
apparently and Good evening.

00:44:43.372 --> 00:44:45.372
Joining me tonight is Liz

00:44:45.875 --> 00:44:47.875
Kelly or city engineer and Korean

00:44:48.644 --> 00:44:50.644
now our capital project manager for

00:44:51.347 --> 00:44:53.347
the project. We have prepared a

00:44:54.383 --> 00:44:56.383
short presentation for this evening, but we do or hear

00:44:58.554 --> 00:45:00.554
primarily to answer your questions before I turn this over the Corey for

00:45:03.125 --> 00:45:05.125
the presentation. I did want to make a couple of comments tonight. We're

00:45:07.229 --> 00:45:09.229
asking counsel to authorize the ward that construction contract. For the

00:45:11.534 --> 00:45:13.534
interchange and phase one of the corridor. This Project reached violin design

00:45:15.971 --> 00:45:17.971
several months ago, it was advertised in mid September, and we're excited

00:45:20.543 --> 00:45:22.543
to move forward towards construction in this regionally significant project.

00:45:25.214 --> 00:45:27.214
This project is in the precarious position right now, with regards to budget

00:45:29.752 --> 00:45:31.752
and schedule. It is imperative that we move forward on this project quickly.

00:45:34.490 --> 00:45:36.490
Our goal is to award the contract by the end of the year and the contractor

00:45:38.994 --> 00:45:40.994
to begin mobilization at the end of the day, January. This project includes

00:45:43.432 --> 00:45:45.432
a six month closure of 1 45th in order for the contractor to do utility

00:45:47.970 --> 00:45:49.970
relocation and re grading that closure is specifically timed to begin in

00:45:52.541 --> 00:45:54.541
the spring, and to be completed by the end of kept by September. Timeframe

00:45:56.779 --> 00:45:58.779
in order to align with the Lynwood link Light rail operations and other

00:46:01.450 --> 00:46:03.450
capital projects in the area. When we I don't if I this closure we identified

00:46:05.955 --> 00:46:07.955
that this had a potential savings project savings of 1 to $2 million A delaying

00:46:11.694 --> 00:46:13.694
this project but jeopardizes that closure, which jeopardizes the schedule

00:46:16.232 --> 00:46:18.232
and the budget. Creates a lot lot of risk. We recognize and we appreciate

00:46:20.736 --> 00:46:22.736
the concern for the removal of the trees when I was here back in September

00:46:25.241 --> 00:46:27.241
I made a commitment that would be we would be more transparent regarding

00:46:29.311 --> 00:46:31.311
tree impacts, and I will continue to ensure that commitment. However. We

00:46:34.149 --> 00:46:36.149
also identify that there are capital projects in the pipeline. That had

00:46:38.888 --> 00:46:40.888
not shared a lot of information regarding three removals. This is one of

00:46:43.225 --> 00:46:45.225
those projects. Subsequent to that discussion. We have work to update the

00:46:47.763 --> 00:46:49.763
website. And make access to the in for mation easier and more transparent

00:46:52.268 --> 00:46:54.268
for this project we have included the information regarding three removals,

00:46:56.739 --> 00:46:58.739
and we did provide a current article explaining about the three remove us

00:47:01.143 --> 00:47:03.143
for this project, but also general in formation about three removals on

00:47:05.681 --> 00:47:07.681
Capitol projects will continue to increase our transparency and inclusion

00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.119
on training impacts. During the design phase of this project. But for this

00:47:14.390 --> 00:47:16.390
project, it is really difficult to go back and reassess these at this time.

00:47:18.961 --> 00:47:20.961
I also want to note that in the staff report we identified that prior to

00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.599
a ward. We also needed Washington Department of transportation's approval

00:47:28.270 --> 00:47:30.270
of the contractors. Utilization of Disadvantaged Business Enterprise is

00:47:32.474 --> 00:47:34.474
in order to proceed with contract execution, and we did receive that concurrence

00:47:36.845 --> 00:47:38.845
of a ward today from wash that were very excited with this good news that

00:47:41.500 --> 00:47:43.500
with councils action tonight we are ready to move forward with the ward

00:47:45.754 --> 00:47:47.754
of this contract. And with that I will turn it over to Cory now for a presentation

00:47:50.426 --> 00:47:52.426
before we answer your questions, and I encourage you to make this fairly

00:47:54.964 --> 00:47:56.964
brief encounter, And this was a right Okay? Yes. Thank you. I'll try and

00:47:59.735 --> 00:48:01.735
talk as quick as I can. I did want to highlight a few, um, background piece

00:48:04.600 --> 00:48:06.600
of information for this project, starting with the project history and the

00:48:08.444 --> 00:48:10.444
schedule moving forward. One of the big questions or the big reasons were

00:48:13.182 --> 00:48:15.182
performing this project is because there is a large amount of traffic currently

00:48:17.419 --> 00:48:19.419
on the 1 45th corridor. And. Certainly that's expected to increase when

00:48:21.991 --> 00:48:23.991
the light rail station is implemented and also the sidewalks in the area

00:48:26.495 --> 00:48:28.495
are impassable. In fact, you can see a sign that's currently posted on the

00:48:31.330 --> 00:48:33.330
Sea Atal side. That's It is says it is not usable by wheelchairs. Um, that's

00:48:35.204 --> 00:48:37.204
something we are fixing with this project, so it's incredibly important

00:48:39.441 --> 00:48:41.441
for the multimodal transition of this corridor. As far as the project schedule

00:48:43.779 --> 00:48:45.779
goes, I do want to highlight that this project started in 2015 with the

00:48:48.350 --> 00:48:50.350
corridor study and has been progressing both through the study and various

00:48:52.821 --> 00:48:54.821
stages of design and right away acquisition until today's date December

00:48:57.226 --> 00:48:59.226
20th 23 during that time we've had a series of outreach events, both open

00:49:01.764 --> 00:49:03.764
houses and council updates over the various years. As. Well, as many other

00:49:06.235 --> 00:49:08.235
actions in outreach methods we views with responding to the citizens along

00:49:10.906 --> 00:49:12.906
the way. Right Now. We're in contract execution barreling towards construction

00:49:15.310 --> 00:49:17.310
starting in late January of 2024, assuming we receive all three ization

00:49:19.214 --> 00:49:21.214
tonight. Um I to highlight again. The funding

00:49:23.152 --> 00:49:25.152
Um these pie charts are intended to show that these projects are expensive, and

00:49:26.989 --> 00:49:28.989
it is required a lot of work by city staff to

00:49:30.826 --> 00:49:32.826
compile all the funding sources of big one on the

00:49:34.696 --> 00:49:36.696
corridor is connecting Washington. However. We have been soliciting many

00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.400
other partners both in utilities. T, I b S T P

00:49:41.370 --> 00:49:43.370
and C. Mac and then on the interchange

00:49:44.540 --> 00:49:46.540
Project. It's even more spread out. We are using

00:49:48.477 --> 00:49:50.477
sound transit. We've been able to partner with them other you till it easy

00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.480
as DP with the bid that came in from Johanson. We are a

00:49:56.919 --> 00:49:58.919
hair short on are the funding of sectors that we have right now.

00:50:01.123 --> 00:50:03.123
And. So we're looking for General fund contribution to

00:50:05.270 --> 00:50:07.270
close that funding gap. Um and then just to touch

00:50:08.363 --> 00:50:10.363
briefly on the trees that are impacted

00:50:11.934 --> 00:50:13.934
We are there's a table up here for that splits the trees removed

00:50:15.904 --> 00:50:17.904
between the corridor. Phase one and the interchange. There's 100 and

00:50:20.476 --> 00:50:22.476
35 trees, existing trees that are being removed for corridor. Phase one

00:50:24.746 --> 00:50:26.746
and 283 for the interchange. The reason we have identified that these trees

00:50:29.118 --> 00:50:31.118
need to be removed is because Like you saw with the sidewalk on the Seattle

00:50:33.622 --> 00:50:35.622
side. We just need to expand a little bit more. There's a little more space

00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:40.160
we need And. Unfortunately, the impacts trees and on the north side as we're

00:50:42.698 --> 00:50:44.698
expanding the sidewalk we actually encounter a grade break, So we're having

00:50:47.136 --> 00:50:49.136
to fill a lot of dirt in that area in order to, um, build out the extra

00:50:51.807 --> 00:50:53.807
lane. We need center lane to improve traffic and then also increased to

00:50:56.578 --> 00:50:58.578
a 13 ft. Sidewalk from first I five So. That's just a lot more length and

00:51:00.816 --> 00:51:02.816
with we needed, you know, we're kind of chasing it downhill path there.

00:51:05.354 --> 00:51:07.354
So. That's that's one of the big reasons. Another thing I want to note is

00:51:09.892 --> 00:51:11.892
that the 13 ft Sidewalk is wasn't a critical element and receiving funding

00:51:14.196 --> 00:51:16.196
for this project. 13 ft A louse us to remove bicycles from the roadway.

00:51:18.330 --> 00:51:20.330
In put them on the shared use path and certainly

00:51:21.737 --> 00:51:23.737
with the expected volume of pedestrians that will come through here. That

00:51:25.974 --> 00:51:27.974
was a pretty kal el. Um, into that was a promise we made to our funding

00:51:30.112 --> 00:51:32.112
partners. So 13. Ft is very critical of the project. And then the last thing

00:51:34.683 --> 00:51:36.683
I wanted to highlight here was how many trees were planting with these projects.

00:51:38.787 --> 00:51:40.787
In corridor. Phase one We are planting 58 trees in in the

00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:44.240
corridor section and then 836 trees with

00:51:45.694 --> 00:51:47.694
the interchange. I did want to highlight. One note is that there's not

00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.199
836 6 trees worth of space on the interchange project. So were you till

00:51:53.969 --> 00:51:55.969
I zing this space underneath the L a vacated railway to

00:51:58.600 --> 00:52:00.600
plant large shrubs, which will perform like trees as

00:52:01.510 --> 00:52:03.510
far as the climate impact and then one last thing I'm going to

00:52:05.647 --> 00:52:07.647
go back one slide. I forgot to okay. We don't need every detail

00:52:10.185 --> 00:52:12.185
Can I, can I get go ahead, But this is we've been looking this since 2015

00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:16.690
so we don't need to walk through every Okay, the one thing I just wanted

00:52:19.228 --> 00:52:21.228
to note on the trees removed is that that is every true removed. There is

00:52:23.932 --> 00:52:25.932
a question about you know what size we counted for trees removed And when

00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.239
we talk about these numbers that is every tree regardless of sites. Okay.

00:52:36.478 --> 00:52:38.478
Thank you. It's an action. I. Um, is there an opening motion? Customer I'm

00:52:40.716 --> 00:52:42.716
moved to make it more shame for the A P Movil's of The discussed subject.

00:52:44.853 --> 00:52:46.853
Fair enough. Is there a 2nd 2nd is that adequate? The motion that Mr Smith

00:52:48.357 --> 00:52:50.357
Um yes. So do you want to make a motion

00:52:51.126 --> 00:52:53.126
for approving as listed on

00:52:55.970 --> 00:52:57.970
the agenda listed on the agenda? Thank you. Thank you. Would You like to

00:52:59.468 --> 00:53:01.468
speak to you about? Absolutely Thank you, ma'am. First of all is not just

00:53:03.472 --> 00:53:05.472
about trees, but I am very surprised Last September. I revisited

00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:09.750
my notes and We had promised the public transparency.

00:53:10.412 --> 00:53:12.412
From 2005 15 to 2023 is

00:53:13.515 --> 00:53:15.515
a years I looked back to the notes and we

00:53:16.551 --> 00:53:18.551
have completed the design phase. And

00:53:19.421 --> 00:53:21.421
We knew this was coming up. And they

00:53:22.257 --> 00:53:24.257
didn't make it. No No. One to the public

00:53:25.494 --> 00:53:27.494
Even me. I didn't surprised when I saw this. Okay. This

00:53:29.564 --> 00:53:31.564
is huge. It's a huge project we've been talking about it all right, but

00:53:33.735 --> 00:53:35.735
it's coming and people have to know. Secondly, Change orders

00:53:37.739 --> 00:53:39.739
when they contract is passed. And all this becomes difficult and is

00:53:42.377 --> 00:53:44.377
expensive, and I'm glad that in the presentation budget was talked about.

00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:49.150
Well If the budget is going to be impacted, then I think about the environment.

00:53:51.687 --> 00:53:53.687
How about I environment. Is it going to be impacted in any way. I believe

00:53:55.924 --> 00:53:57.924
so. How has the passion of the climate action plan being in included in

00:54:00.429 --> 00:54:02.429
the execution of this project. Yes, it's in planning years back by tens

00:54:04.833 --> 00:54:06.833
have changed. And so how are we, including that as we move forward, Do.

00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.400
We say Well, this is how we plan it and it has to be done this way, whether

00:54:14.420 --> 00:54:16.420
we like it or not. Ah, pass on this and take feedback, maybe other kinds

00:54:18.347 --> 00:54:20.347
of members of questions. Thank you. I'll take it. I'll. Take a step at that

00:54:22.584 --> 00:54:24.584
answer, So I think the question that I heard you ask was in light of the

00:54:26.955 --> 00:54:28.955
climate action plan. What did we make revisions to this design associated

00:54:31.326 --> 00:54:33.326
with that? Um and I would say specifically at the time the climate action

00:54:35.964 --> 00:54:37.964
plan was adopted, which was last December. We have not gone through in made

00:54:40.402 --> 00:54:42.402
significant changes to this plan as result of the climate action plan again,

00:54:44.906 --> 00:54:46.906
this project is really focused on one of the strategies in the climate action

00:54:49.644 --> 00:54:51.644
plan is about reducing greenhouse gasses through mode shift and to reducing

00:54:54.149 --> 00:54:56.149
the ICC, ALS and so this project really is focused on that multi modality.

00:54:58.553 --> 00:55:00.553
And about, you know, improve safety and so were really for this project

00:55:08.363 --> 00:55:10.363
meets the climate Action plan objectives through that mode shift in providing

00:55:12.634 --> 00:55:14.634
safer place for bikes and pedestrians to be able to get out of their cars.

00:55:16.705 --> 00:55:18.705
Did that answer your question. It dates on the aspect. And then what was

00:55:21.343 --> 00:55:23.343
the other aspect? The aspect has to do with Budget impact and environmental

00:55:25.947 --> 00:55:27.947
impact. If we compare that Specifically talking about trees. We are saying

00:55:30.452 --> 00:55:32.452
13 is what we need. And so we have to do it in a way a A, and he doesn't

00:55:34.689 --> 00:55:36.689
really sit well with me as I analytical person. I look at it. Okay. What's

00:55:38.827 --> 00:55:40.827
the best option to satisfy both. So if you say we want to go with 13 ft

00:55:43.131 --> 00:55:45.131
together, That's what we need and I think about environment where we won't

00:55:48.136 --> 00:55:50.136
people to walk. It's my understanding we don't want people to work in the

00:55:52.441 --> 00:55:54.441
sun scorches or Walker. With nothing out there. That's why I'm guessing

00:55:56.978 --> 00:55:58.978
so surprised at and said that's Guess who? The 13 ft, So this project does

00:56:01.516 --> 00:56:03.516
have the amenities own where we are replanting trees, and so we are creating

00:56:05.987 --> 00:56:07.987
some opportunity to plant additional trees, not to the same extent of what's

00:56:10.525 --> 00:56:12.525
being removed along the corridor. But that 13 Ft is also designed again

00:56:14.930 --> 00:56:16.930
so that we can remove bikes from the roadway, especially with the speed

00:56:19.634 --> 00:56:21.634
and the volume on the roadway. So, the 13 Ft is a shared use paths to provide

00:56:23.972 --> 00:56:25.972
space for both pedestrians and bicyclists. We did not do an evaluation or

00:56:28.143 --> 00:56:30.143
some sort of financial analysis. Comparing The environmental costs of

00:56:32.581 --> 00:56:34.581
tree removal versus the benefits of a 13 FT Sidewalk versus saying

00:56:36.184 --> 00:56:38.184
8 FT Sidewalk, where 5 ft Sidewalk.

00:56:42.123 --> 00:56:44.123
Thank you, ma'am. The other questions are comments.

00:56:45.594 --> 00:56:47.594
Definitely Who am I Kidding on. Um I Hope we

00:56:49.331 --> 00:56:51.331
support this as a council and I realized that we've

00:56:53.768 --> 00:56:55.768
got some new members, including myself, who have not had a chance to really

00:56:57.706 --> 00:56:59.706
weigh in on this and it started in 2015. But this

00:57:00.642 --> 00:57:02.642
is how projects of this size and

00:57:03.879 --> 00:57:05.879
scale work and I just want to call back

00:57:07.949 --> 00:57:09.949
Remember how frustrated we were as a council as a body when Seattle City

00:57:12.354 --> 00:57:14.354
light was suggesting that they were going to have the power done in time.

00:57:16.591 --> 00:57:18.591
This is not a sea shoreline project. This is a regional project

00:57:20.562 --> 00:57:22.562
that impacts sound transit. The development projects that

00:57:24.766 --> 00:57:26.766
are underway. Commuters all the things there are so many impacts here. There

00:57:29.137 --> 00:57:31.137
are millions and millions of dollars that are threatened by us

00:57:33.441 --> 00:57:35.441
not proceeding tonight. And potentially stalling the project altogether

00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.280
a short delay would not be a short delay. It would be a massive reconsideration

00:57:43.151 --> 00:57:45.151
of this project that we that would stall it, potentially killing the project

00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:49.389
forever. Um, we would be sacrificing the safety of commuters

00:57:51.493 --> 00:57:53.493
walkers, bikers, all of those things if this weren't to get done, it is

00:57:55.964 --> 00:57:57.964
far too important for us to move forward right now. And I think I've heard

00:58:00.435 --> 00:58:02.435
Thank you for the explanation very, very loud and clear. Uh, future projects

00:58:04.673 --> 00:58:06.673
when from the outset, based on public outcry, based on the will of this

00:58:09.100 --> 00:58:11.100
council Will move forward. Absolutely with consideration of tree preservation.

00:58:13.381 --> 00:58:15.381
I have no doubt of that. Ah, this one. I hope we recognize the train

00:58:16.718 --> 00:58:18.718
has left the station. Thanks.

00:58:19.621 --> 00:58:21.621
The comments. Captain because

00:58:22.357 --> 00:58:24.357
you were canceled. Roberts didn't

00:58:26.227 --> 00:58:28.227
see Sorry. Please. Go ahead. No, Go ahead. Go ahead, Captain.

00:58:29.364 --> 00:58:31.364
Thank you. Council member

00:58:32.500 --> 00:58:34.500
Roberts for waiting for me, Um

00:58:34.936 --> 00:58:36.936
Oh, my First question

00:58:37.439 --> 00:58:39.439
actually is to council member

00:58:39.975 --> 00:58:41.975
who pulled this because I

00:58:42.911 --> 00:58:44.911
I think because it's been going non since

00:58:46.470 --> 00:58:48.470
2015. There is so much history

00:58:48.750 --> 00:58:50.750
and thank you for reminding us

00:58:51.653 --> 00:58:53.653
the urgency of this

00:58:55.123 --> 00:58:57.123
The grants and all and everything that we have

00:58:58.460 --> 00:59:00.460
done to get to this point. I am not going to

00:59:01.496 --> 00:59:03.496
pull this project I am not going

00:59:04.165 --> 00:59:06.165
to delay it. This has been a

00:59:06.668 --> 00:59:08.668
long time coming and

00:59:09.104 --> 00:59:11.104
anybody going on 1

00:59:11.640 --> 00:59:13.640
45th. Those trees are have

00:59:14.676 --> 00:59:16.676
been there a long time, but I think

00:59:17.512 --> 00:59:19.512
A beautiful role of trees that will

00:59:20.348 --> 00:59:22.348
take a of course sometime

00:59:22.617 --> 00:59:24.617
to grow. Um, with

00:59:25.820 --> 00:59:27.820
a Why'd enough sidewalk where we are

00:59:29.758 --> 00:59:31.758
going to take, um People. Off the roads.

00:59:32.527 --> 00:59:34.527
Two on two bikes to get to

00:59:35.864 --> 00:59:37.864
light rail. These are all win wins for me for

00:59:39.100 --> 00:59:41.100
a years of discussions that we've had

00:59:43.738 --> 00:59:45.738
And Yes. Thank you

00:59:46.374 --> 00:59:48.374
deputy mayor. That train has left

00:59:49.611 --> 00:59:51.611
the station and we cannot. We cannot delay this

00:59:53.682 --> 00:59:55.682
We cannot. We're going to lose the funding. We're going to

00:59:56.818 --> 00:59:58.818
lose time. Um so

00:59:59.954 --> 01:00:01.954
I do know we have a few new people, but I'm

01:00:02.991 --> 01:00:04.991
just letting everyone know

01:00:05.527 --> 01:00:07.527
that this you know sometimes

01:00:08.596 --> 01:00:10.596
These large projects. This is a regional project and

01:00:11.766 --> 01:00:13.766
we are part of the large regional project

01:00:14.969 --> 01:00:16.969
That must, uh, Must be in if it

01:00:17.939 --> 01:00:19.939
it will benefit the future of

01:00:20.775 --> 01:00:22.775
this region are Children are

01:00:23.578 --> 01:00:25.578
grandchildren, etcetera and and the growing

01:00:27.415 --> 01:00:29.415
pains are definitely painful, but I can see the benefits far

01:00:31.786 --> 01:00:33.786
outweigh its. So. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, Councilor Roberts.

01:00:36.910 --> 01:00:38.910
Thank you. All, right. We'll say that I appreciate the staffs

01:00:40.261 --> 01:00:42.261
responses to many of the questions that have been asked by

01:00:43.565 --> 01:00:45.565
Hmm. Kept my body count cell and the work

01:00:46.267 --> 01:00:48.267
that has been done. Two in

01:00:49.370 --> 01:00:51.370
for future projects. I

01:00:52.373 --> 01:00:54.373
think this project really

01:00:55.176 --> 01:00:57.176
illustrates the trade offs that are going

01:00:57.879 --> 01:00:59.879
to be necessary and that we

01:01:01.182 --> 01:01:03.182
have to think about As. We move forward with these

01:01:05.353 --> 01:01:07.353
bigger projects with any project. But I think, especially with some

01:01:09.457 --> 01:01:11.457
of our these big big projects, Um, Council member of

01:01:13.661 --> 01:01:15.661
a Kyle said he's bridge regional projects.

01:01:16.931 --> 01:01:18.931
We have to be. I think we have to moving forward. We need

01:01:21.350 --> 01:01:23.350
to be clear about what our priorities are. We need to be clear

01:01:24.539 --> 01:01:26.539
is it is our private Our priority must be

01:01:27.408 --> 01:01:29.408
with these rodents. Infrastructure

01:01:30.780 --> 01:01:32.780
projects must be safety safety for

01:01:32.947 --> 01:01:34.947
all users. I think that's my needs to

01:01:36.251 --> 01:01:38.251
be first in any kind of project

01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:41.200
and then we need to go to a whole lot of

01:01:42.900 --> 01:01:44.900
secondary priorities in terms in one of

01:01:45.126 --> 01:01:47.126
those big secondary priorities must be

01:01:48.620 --> 01:01:50.620
Preservation of trees and we need to have a

01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:53.599
We cannot have We

01:01:54.469 --> 01:01:56.469
can't afford any more Heat islands we

01:01:57.839 --> 01:01:59.839
can't afford any And so

01:02:00.441 --> 01:02:02.441
we need to be really up front from the

01:02:03.611 --> 01:02:05.611
beginning of this projects when we think about

01:02:07.549 --> 01:02:09.549
the relationship of our built environment and our Nansha we environment

01:02:11.986 --> 01:02:13.986
of how can we protect especially some of the magnificent trees that

01:02:16.900 --> 01:02:18.900
we have? You know longer right of ways and so

01:02:19.127 --> 01:02:21.127
for me. Because we need to protect

01:02:21.796 --> 01:02:23.796
all users. First, some of the

01:02:25.660 --> 01:02:27.660
considerations that we've traditionally made around.

01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:31.300
Additional vehicles to pass it. E. Need to be

01:02:32.373 --> 01:02:34.373
The prioritized. As if we're going to l

01:02:36.144 --> 01:02:38.144
a vacate Production the environment. Other things

01:02:39.647 --> 01:02:41.647
need to be to be less significant. So, one

01:02:42.483 --> 01:02:44.483
of the when we think about future

01:02:46.387 --> 01:02:48.387
projects, why is a senator Why are we adding a full center turn lane?

01:02:50.158 --> 01:02:52.158
As sort of is an example. Um, so we need to

01:02:53.428 --> 01:02:55.428
be very Intentional about what

01:02:56.731 --> 01:02:58.731
and why we're doing things we can't just as

01:03:00.435 --> 01:03:02.435
a council. I do not think we can just sort of what

01:03:04.500 --> 01:03:06.500
projects just get developed, but we need to really sort of way

01:03:08.420 --> 01:03:10.420
in early on about what our priorities are for big for this

01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:13.880
project objects and how do we achieve our communities, Vision and our

01:03:15.950 --> 01:03:17.950
community vision is not necessarily going to be Let's see how

01:03:20.540 --> 01:03:22.540
What's what can be the level of service at our inner sections. So

01:03:24.926 --> 01:03:26.926
with those reservations, I'm going to be supporting this motion.

01:03:29.564 --> 01:03:31.564
Thank you? Thank you other comments?

01:03:33.670 --> 01:03:35.670
Anyone. I'll come back to David. Yeah. All right. I

01:03:36.671 --> 01:03:38.671
just want to add a couple of things so 2015 is when I started on

01:03:40.842 --> 01:03:42.842
council. So I. Remember this the entire evolution is and there were

01:03:44.979 --> 01:03:46.979
plenty of opportunities for public comment, and we received a lot of public

01:03:49.684 --> 01:03:51.684
comment. But continuous improvement what we learned on other projects recently

01:03:53.955 --> 01:03:55.955
is folks telling us we didn't know how many trees were coming down. And.

01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.920
So what we started doing is putting that front and center that's always

01:04:02.363 --> 01:04:04.363
been available, but we haven't necessarily been leading with that. That's

01:04:06.768 --> 01:04:08.768
an improvement. We need to make. But the idea that there wasn't public comment

01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.239
or that we didn't reach out. That's an accurate we absolutely did. Um Everything

01:04:15.710 --> 01:04:17.710
else I would want to say, has pretty much been said. Both in terms of are

01:04:19.948 --> 01:04:21.948
not trying to micromanage things. The 11th hour and in terms of the broader

01:04:24.152 --> 01:04:26.152
Point of this. The point of this is environmental. The point of this is

01:04:28.356 --> 01:04:30.356
to save trees. In areas other than your line so we can build affordable,

01:04:32.560 --> 01:04:34.560
dense housing here doesn't have to build it somewhere that's currently forested

01:04:36.831 --> 01:04:38.831
or farmland. Um, finally, what we're doing moving forward. We had a meeting

01:04:41.235 --> 01:04:43.235
right proceeding this on council operations and one of the things discussing

01:04:45.740 --> 01:04:47.740
our annual retreat is exactly what council member Roberts mentioned, which

01:04:50.244 --> 01:04:52.244
is where the priorities set because sometimes it gets lost in the shuffle

01:04:54.749 --> 01:04:56.749
of a billion priorities and we end up with a project that the prioritizes

01:04:59.530 --> 01:05:01.530
trees and I think we have a council already to say. Let's start price rising

01:05:03.958 --> 01:05:05.958
them both preservation and adding them in Um, but as of now, I think We're

01:05:08.496 --> 01:05:10.496
all going to be a fairly you knighted to this project needs to move forward.

01:05:13.101 --> 01:05:15.101
And if this is the project, we would have designed. How. Do we picked it

01:05:17.505 --> 01:05:19.505
up starting today. I don't know, but it is a project that has been designed

01:05:22.110 --> 01:05:24.110
over the last eight years and I for one AM ready to see against artist.

01:05:26.614 --> 01:05:28.614
Republic. Thank you, mayor. I'm surprised a little bit that my colleagues

01:05:31.850 --> 01:05:33.850
didn't hear my point. I'm not asking for the dealer with the project as

01:05:37.291 --> 01:05:39.291
a by the analyst, it will be on wise for me to even make that recommendation.

01:05:42.663 --> 01:05:44.663
What, I said, is don't buy a comparing 2015 and use it in 2023 without a

01:05:47.135 --> 01:05:49.135
firm where update, but I'm asking is a firmware update for the project.

01:05:51.272 --> 01:05:53.272
Thank you. Anything further. Will the clerk. Please call them Golly, I Council

01:05:55.610 --> 01:05:57.610
member Rams. I Remember. McConnell High Council member PO be alright Council

01:06:00.810 --> 01:06:02.810
member Roberts High Council member Mark I Robertson by I thank you. The

01:06:04.218 --> 01:06:06.218
Emotion passes, you know, animus Li. Next up is action Item B, which is

01:06:17.465 --> 01:06:19.465
action on Ordinance number 996 establishing a new new chapter regarding

01:06:23.104 --> 01:06:25.104
tenant protections. This will back down. Presenting Right?

01:06:38.252 --> 01:06:40.252
Thank you.

01:06:41.489 --> 01:06:43.489
Good Evening Baron Council again. I'm, Bethany Robert Down

01:06:44.892 --> 01:06:46.892
the city's community services manager, and I'm

01:06:48.463 --> 01:06:50.463
here today to talk about the possible adoption

01:06:51.833 --> 01:06:53.833
of tenant protections, which is Ordinance number

01:06:55.503 --> 01:06:57.503
996 and I just have a few introductory slides before

01:07:01.275 --> 01:07:03.275
we get to our recommendation.

01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:10.820
Yes. Okay, There

01:07:11.285 --> 01:07:13.285
we go. Is a brief background again

01:07:14.722 --> 01:07:16.722
The Washington State Residential Landlord Tenant Act provides

01:07:18.292 --> 01:07:20.292
basic tenant protections to shore line residents.

01:07:21.129 --> 01:07:23.129
On June 22nd 2022 Council

01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:27.320
reviewed general Tenant protection information. On

01:07:28.302 --> 01:07:30.302
March 10th during your strategic retreat, you held

01:07:31.973 --> 01:07:33.973
a second discussion. And, then the following

01:07:35.243 --> 01:07:37.243
counsel meetings, extensive public comment and

01:07:42.717 --> 01:07:44.717
council discussion was held on November 20th and December 4th. I

01:07:46.554 --> 01:07:48.554
will not read through these. But. The proposed ordinance

01:07:49.857 --> 01:07:51.857
996 is still presented or is still listed as

01:07:53.161 --> 01:07:55.161
originally presented on November 20th. With, the

01:07:59.300 --> 01:08:01.300
following proposed tenant protections. And

01:08:02.870 --> 01:08:04.870
Again staff's recommendation is to, uh

01:08:05.473 --> 01:08:07.473
Vote to adopt ordinance

01:08:08.750 --> 01:08:10.750
996, which establishes a new chapter

01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:13.679
regarding residential tenant protections. Right. This is

01:08:15.716 --> 01:08:17.716
an action item, so we usually start with the main motion filed by amendments is

01:08:19.921 --> 01:08:21.921
their main motion. The move to a dump unders number 996 is publishing

01:08:24.225 --> 01:08:26.225
the new chapter chapter 9.35 on the show nine Municipal Code

01:08:28.162 --> 01:08:30.162
regarding residential tenant, but technicians second motion

01:08:32.366 --> 01:08:34.366
in second counselor probie, Would you like to speak to your motion. Thank

01:08:36.537 --> 01:08:38.537
you, ma'am. Is in the best interest of both land lords and 10 INTs that we

01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:45.770
passed this. Thank you. Thank you Other comments or amendments?

01:08:46.581 --> 01:08:48.581
Councilor Mort This is what we need. Yeah. I'm sorry.

01:08:49.750 --> 01:08:51.750
So I would like to move on

01:08:53.187 --> 01:08:55.187
to extend Exhibit a two proposed ordinance number

01:08:56.257 --> 01:08:58.257
996 to add a new new section SMC

01:08:59.393 --> 01:09:01.393
9.35 0.0 65 additional fees that shown

01:09:03.970 --> 01:09:05.970
in the staff reap ports as a management number one c.

01:09:06.534 --> 01:09:08.534
And just just so all of us looking to write

01:09:09.904 --> 01:09:11.904
thing. What motion number is this One c one c. Okay

01:09:13.941 --> 01:09:15.941
Thank you. Motion, known as second would like to speak to your motion

01:09:18.346 --> 01:09:20.346
to amend. Ah, I think that the

01:09:21.115 --> 01:09:23.115
Staff has when we

01:09:24.986 --> 01:09:26.986
learned about the notice fees, I think Some of

01:09:28.289 --> 01:09:30.289
us were not aware that they were happening

01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.920
and staff has made an effort to

01:09:34.295 --> 01:09:36.295
Get rid of some of the these fees that are

01:09:38.332 --> 01:09:40.332
not obvious, and that's what this motion is.

01:09:41.769 --> 01:09:43.769
Any other questions, questions or comments on the motion to

01:09:44.905 --> 01:09:46.905
amend on Councilor Roberts

01:09:47.942 --> 01:09:49.942
is your hand up for that, or It

01:09:50.811 --> 01:09:52.811
is yes. I'll just say I think

01:09:53.481 --> 01:09:55.481
that putting And having fees in

01:09:56.117 --> 01:09:58.117
the least is helps with

01:09:58.886 --> 01:10:00.886
the transparency for both

01:10:02.230 --> 01:10:04.230
renters and for tenants and landlords.

01:10:05.326 --> 01:10:07.326
That. Everyone knows goes from the beginning

01:10:08.796 --> 01:10:10.796
What kind of fees are A landlord may

01:10:12.330 --> 01:10:14.330
charge and the rate of those fees. I think

01:10:15.736 --> 01:10:17.736
that everyone benefits from that transparency.

01:10:19.573 --> 01:10:21.573
Thank you, mayor. Thank you. Any other comments The

01:10:23.811 --> 01:10:25.811
clerk. Please Call them. Did you ever comment Council member? Okay. All,

01:10:28.549 --> 01:10:30.549
right? Well, the clerk. Please call the vote on the motion to amend Deputy

01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:34.920
Mayor Robertson. I Council member Mark I Council member Roberts. High

01:10:37.224 --> 01:10:39.224
Council member McConnell High Council member of Hobie I Council

01:10:41.462 --> 01:10:43.462
member Ramsdale. Alright I Scali high The motion

01:10:47.268 --> 01:10:49.268
to amend passes unanimously there are there other emotions

01:10:51.380 --> 01:10:53.380
Mark. Thank you. This is a mandatory motion

01:10:54.375 --> 01:10:56.375
number two. I moved to amend its if it a

01:10:57.345 --> 01:10:59.345
two proposed ordinance number 996 to

01:11:00.181 --> 01:11:02.181
amend section SMC 9 to 35 0

01:11:03.551 --> 01:11:05.551
58 to change the maximum amount of late fees from

01:11:07.421 --> 01:11:09.421
1.5% to 3 per cent of the monthly rent.

01:11:10.224 --> 01:11:12.224
Second like to speak to your motion.

01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:14.760
Yes. I think

01:11:16.430 --> 01:11:18.430
that, as has been mentioned by many of

01:11:19.500 --> 01:11:21.500
our commenters is really important that

01:11:22.203 --> 01:11:24.203
the tenants are incentivized

01:11:24.839 --> 01:11:26.839
to pay on time. And I'm

01:11:28.275 --> 01:11:30.275
concerned that 1.5. Half percent is

01:11:31.612 --> 01:11:33.612
Too small to affect that.

01:11:35.490 --> 01:11:37.490
I appreciate that they requested a

01:11:37.551 --> 01:11:39.551
10 per cent. Um Brent

01:11:40.388 --> 01:11:42.388
in. This is 3% for

01:11:42.857 --> 01:11:44.857
$2000 Rent is about

01:11:45.826 --> 01:11:47.826
60 bucks, so it's

01:11:48.629 --> 01:11:50.629
not huge, but it's hopefully

01:11:51.599 --> 01:11:53.599
enough to have people remember to pay the rent

01:11:55.269 --> 01:11:57.269
on time. Thank you. Other comments on the proposed amendment.

01:11:58.939 --> 01:12:00.939
Cancer. McConnell Um I, too, will be

01:12:02.376 --> 01:12:04.376
supporting this. I actually would have supported

01:12:05.579 --> 01:12:07.579
5% having been a

01:12:09.250 --> 01:12:11.250
landlord for 3040 years. It.

01:12:12.420 --> 01:12:14.420
I've hardly ever had to use the of the

01:12:15.389 --> 01:12:17.389
late fee option, but it is an incentive

01:12:18.692 --> 01:12:20.692
to prioritize and For

01:12:22.897 --> 01:12:24.897
3% were talking still

01:12:25.332 --> 01:12:27.332
$60 or, you know, under

01:12:27.835 --> 01:12:29.835
uh, 100, so I think it's a good

01:12:30.871 --> 01:12:32.871
compromise because we have heard

01:12:34.410 --> 01:12:36.410
from landlords and and we're trying

01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:39.440
which we're trying to set of balance. Thank

01:12:41.810 --> 01:12:43.810
you very much counselor. Republican. Thank you, man.

01:12:44.585 --> 01:12:46.585
On December 4th deputy mayor asked the question and I kept

01:12:48.722 --> 01:12:50.722
thinking about it all week. She asked What are we doing in

01:12:52.827 --> 01:12:54.827
that dressing homelessness? And then we get amendment

01:12:56.263 --> 01:12:58.263
that says. Let's Get people to the streets by increasing

01:12:59.633 --> 01:13:01.633
1.5 to 3 per cent of the manly rent fees

01:13:02.703 --> 01:13:04.703
Whatever that's that's a reverse for for for

01:13:06.373 --> 01:13:08.373
me if you look at it, and so I definitely would not be

01:13:12.346 --> 01:13:14.346
supporting this. Other comments.

01:13:15.649 --> 01:13:17.649
Alright, I'll be waiting on this as well and from

01:13:19.186 --> 01:13:21.186
my perspective if your landlord between 1.5 and

01:13:23.230 --> 01:13:25.230
3%, assuming you're at a quit the capital ized shouldn't make much of a

01:13:26.827 --> 01:13:28.827
difference. But if you make it $15 in our a $60 thing

01:13:30.331 --> 01:13:32.331
$60 penalty is far as work. And weighing the impact

01:13:34.768 --> 01:13:36.768
on a tenant versus the impact on versus the benefit to a landlord. I'm

01:13:39.306 --> 01:13:41.306
just not seeing how this is a tremendous benefit for landlords and I am

01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.880
seeing how this could really harm a tenant's. I'll Be voting now. Any other

01:13:50.985 --> 01:13:52.985
comments. Will the court. Please call the vote on the motion to amend Mayor

01:13:56.190 --> 01:13:58.190
Scully. No. Council member Ramsey. Nay. Council member Mark

01:13:59.593 --> 01:14:01.593
I. Remember McConnell, I Council member of

01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.399
Probie name Council member Roberts.

01:14:08.235 --> 01:14:10.235
No. Deputy Mayor Robertson.

01:14:10.938 --> 01:14:12.938
Alright. The motion fails with

01:14:16.577 --> 01:14:18.577
two years and five days. Is there another motion.

01:14:19.947 --> 01:14:21.947
Councilor. Robert. Sorry. Thank you

01:14:22.983 --> 01:14:24.983
I'm going to jump to, um

01:14:25.619 --> 01:14:27.619
Amendments nine and 10.

01:14:29.590 --> 01:14:31.590
Yeah, and I'd like them to, um

01:14:32.860 --> 01:14:34.860
Move adoption of Council Amendment nine, which

01:14:35.763 --> 01:14:37.763
shall change shelves and me

01:14:38.799 --> 01:14:40.799
and up change the landlord viable building

01:14:43.103 --> 01:14:45.103
five violations up to three times rent. Sarah, second That's

01:14:47.700 --> 01:14:49.700
again then. Like to speak to your Motion Council member.

01:14:50.177 --> 01:14:52.177
Yes I one of the things there's a

01:14:52.947 --> 01:14:54.947
few things along this section.

01:14:55.349 --> 01:14:57.349
Um, that We've I

01:14:58.552 --> 01:15:00.552
think many people have talked about and

01:15:01.555 --> 01:15:03.555
I know there may be another amendment that

01:15:06.126 --> 01:15:08.126
would strike this entire section, but The One of

01:15:09.530 --> 01:15:11.530
the things in here is that the way that the ordinances set

01:15:13.500 --> 01:15:15.500
up instead, any violation would be

01:15:16.804 --> 01:15:18.804
Either double. Greater the double of to the tenants

01:15:20.908 --> 01:15:22.908
economic or in non economic damages, or three times a monthly

01:15:24.345 --> 01:15:26.345
based rent A judge. Would not have any

01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.880
kind of ability to

01:15:30.217 --> 01:15:32.217
Make a different determination. So in

01:15:33.721 --> 01:15:35.721
mind your technical violation would have the same

01:15:37.291 --> 01:15:39.291
penalty as a A You can just

01:15:40.761 --> 01:15:42.761
consistent or Very flagrant violation of the sort

01:15:43.931 --> 01:15:45.931
of that's and so because

01:15:46.700 --> 01:15:48.700
all all types of violations of treated the

01:15:49.737 --> 01:15:51.737
same, Uh, I, giving a judge That

01:15:53.273 --> 01:15:55.273
A bill ability to determine the severity of the violin

01:15:56.777 --> 01:15:58.777
in and hold the landlord accountable for

01:15:59.813 --> 01:16:01.813
the severity of that. Violation, I think is

01:16:04.151 --> 01:16:06.151
very appropriate as we craft this organs. Thank you here.

01:16:07.921 --> 01:16:09.921
Other comments. Councilor McConnell

01:16:11.759 --> 01:16:13.759
Mhm. Oh Go

01:16:14.928 --> 01:16:16.928
ahead. Yeah. I'm not going to

01:16:18.165 --> 01:16:20.165
be supporting this only because I have

01:16:21.201 --> 01:16:23.201
heard from, uh, we've heard from Everybody has

01:16:25.506 --> 01:16:27.506
in the landlord Ng, um, portion of this.

01:16:28.809 --> 01:16:30.809
Um, issue that they really feel that

01:16:31.812 --> 01:16:33.812
this is Not a

01:16:34.782 --> 01:16:36.782
Not something that they would support if

01:16:38.118 --> 01:16:40.118
they could vote for it, And I am

01:16:41.655 --> 01:16:43.655
not going to be supporting. I just think that it is going

01:16:44.692 --> 01:16:46.692
to open up a lot of litigation

01:16:48.295 --> 01:16:50.295
that's unnecessary and puts a strain on the system

01:16:52.433 --> 01:16:54.433
And again. The goal is For homelessness or for

01:16:55.569 --> 01:16:57.569
stable housing. Ah! These things

01:16:58.706 --> 01:17:00.706
will drive small landlords

01:17:01.575 --> 01:17:03.575
out of business, and it

01:17:04.111 --> 01:17:06.111
will only leave the

01:17:06.814 --> 01:17:08.814
larger ones who have 100 units

01:17:10.284 --> 01:17:12.284
Success. They never going to be a specs a ble as all the

01:17:13.587 --> 01:17:15.587
people I've talked to that. You know we were

01:17:16.690 --> 01:17:18.690
We talk and and ask for help

01:17:19.626 --> 01:17:21.626
People handle things and we handled things a lot

01:17:22.763 --> 01:17:24.763
in a gray area that is actually a win

01:17:25.966 --> 01:17:27.966
win. Um, and it's not to say it's not. I mean It's

01:17:29.903 --> 01:17:31.903
really like we we get on the phone we actually called the tenant

01:17:34.374 --> 01:17:36.374
and say, Is there. A issue of financial concern that

01:17:37.878 --> 01:17:39.878
we can work through. So that you get out. With

01:17:41.480 --> 01:17:43.480
the least damage and I have

01:17:44.170 --> 01:17:46.170
returned security deposits that I didn't

01:17:47.254 --> 01:17:49.254
have to, because it is a win win for me

01:17:50.190 --> 01:17:52.190
when somebody wants to take a treat

01:17:53.227 --> 01:17:55.227
and nobody is bitter about it, so

01:17:58.799 --> 01:18:00.799
Thank you very much counseling programs. Dell

01:18:02.503 --> 01:18:04.503
Thank you, Mayor? Um, um I got a little bit of

01:18:06.240 --> 01:18:08.240
a question here. I mean I'm going to be supporting the Amendment nine. I'm

01:18:10.344 --> 01:18:12.344
wondering if I mend mint 10 does that in any way, if both are past

01:18:14.548 --> 01:18:16.548
due, they are they complimentary if both our past

01:18:17.751 --> 01:18:19.751
or does one amendment kind of Cancel out

01:18:21.288 --> 01:18:23.288
the other or if there's going to any kind of conflict between the two

01:18:25.592 --> 01:18:27.592
men mints and and are we voting on both of moments right now, or we writing

01:18:29.830 --> 01:18:31.830
on one of the time you heard Council member Roberts combine those

01:18:33.567 --> 01:18:35.567
two amendments to Gethers to be the may be liable for

01:18:36.804 --> 01:18:38.804
up to Yeah, I believe that's accurate

01:18:40.474 --> 01:18:42.474
The motion combined the language of nine and 10. It. Is that

01:18:44.478 --> 01:18:46.478
right counselor for Okay. Thank thank you. I will be

01:18:47.781 --> 01:18:49.781
supporting it. I do I did not like

01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:53.840
other wording with shell because I do feel that the

01:18:55.455 --> 01:18:57.455
court should have some flexibility and setting financial ability. I just

01:18:59.793 --> 01:19:01.793
I just think that is going to be some tenant at landlord violations are

01:19:04.164 --> 01:19:06.164
going to be more severe than others. And I feel that this will allow the

01:19:08.769 --> 01:19:10.769
courts to the court to have some discretion. Regarding, the the severity

01:19:13.373 --> 01:19:15.373
of the of the violation and what kind of financial penalty would be associated

01:19:17.511 --> 01:19:19.511
with that penalty. So. Thank you. Further comments, Cancer work. I

01:19:21.381 --> 01:19:23.381
Thank you. I'm just have a clarifying question. The City

01:19:24.918 --> 01:19:26.918
of Kenmore House language like this Is that being

01:19:27.888 --> 01:19:29.888
a Jew dictated at this

01:19:30.924 --> 01:19:32.924
time or I'm not understanding regarding

01:19:33.727 --> 01:19:35.727
this specific mandatory motion or

01:19:36.930 --> 01:19:38.930
for the this this private right of action do have

01:19:40.534 --> 01:19:42.534
private right of action. I believe yes, are they

01:19:46.340 --> 01:19:48.340
I thought they were in court. I thought they were still have to refer to

01:19:50.911 --> 01:19:52.911
Julie on that. There was a man action Violin court against the city of

01:19:54.248 --> 01:19:56.248
Kenmore. Um It's more of a

01:19:56.783 --> 01:19:58.783
All comprehensive in the regards to

01:19:59.853 --> 01:20:01.853
the constitutionality of it as a posed to any

01:20:02.923 --> 01:20:04.923
fine item position position on some

01:20:05.425 --> 01:20:07.425
of the points of it. I'm

01:20:07.794 --> 01:20:09.794
in Europe in Yin Does

01:20:11.310 --> 01:20:13.310
This motion is the way shoreline is

01:20:14.301 --> 01:20:16.301
a poaching it going to put us in the same position

01:20:18.438 --> 01:20:20.438
is Kenmore and unfortunately, since we've had executive sessions, and I'm

01:20:22.175 --> 01:20:24.175
not sure you can answer that in a public forum, Okay

01:20:25.812 --> 01:20:27.812
Thank you? Yeah. Right for the comments.

01:20:28.882 --> 01:20:30.882
Alright, I'm in favor of this and I. Actually

01:20:32.819 --> 01:20:34.819
I interpreted definitely the customer McConnell does. We've had a lot of

01:20:37.357 --> 01:20:39.357
objections to the fact of a private right of action. What this amendment

01:20:41.795 --> 01:20:43.795
does is it's a softer landing for landlords. This makes it easier for landlords

01:20:46.266 --> 01:20:48.266
because it lessens the potential penalties in my view, if you've got shall

01:20:50.971 --> 01:20:52.971
be liable and three times the rent any violation. That's the penalty. So

01:20:55.175 --> 01:20:57.175
if you're rents, $2000, and you're a day before the timeline to provide

01:20:59.780 --> 01:21:01.780
a notice of rent increase than you owe that 10 and $6000, and there's nothing

01:21:04.184 --> 01:21:06.184
to judge can do about it. This makes it discretionary and lights a judge

01:21:08.655 --> 01:21:10.655
say, Hey, this is really minor so fine. You can't do that. But your damages

01:21:12.826 --> 01:21:14.826
are a dollar. I mean, this is it's less. That's less than nominal cases

01:21:17.970 --> 01:21:19.970
receive nominal penalties. And in 25 years of legal practice. This is abused

01:21:21.768 --> 01:21:23.768
These kind of fruits into our views, particularly if the damage is our high.

01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:28.239
You do get lawyers coming out of woodwork. If there is a potential that

01:21:30.978 --> 01:21:32.978
your only going to get basically what the violation cost Then. You don't

01:21:35.248 --> 01:21:37.248
get that. So for me. This is pretty essential. I think ideally, we would

01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:41.720
enforce this as a city rather than having a private right of action. But

01:21:43.957 --> 01:21:45.957
we're just not ready for that were not set up for that. We don't have the

01:21:48.628 --> 01:21:50.628
infrastructure and the penalty provisions supportive of this because unlike

01:21:53.333 --> 01:21:55.333
the last one in my view this advantages Landlords in a way that makes a

01:21:57.571 --> 01:21:59.571
big difference. It doesn't disadvantage 10 INTs, but instead makes it possible

01:22:01.875 --> 01:22:03.875
to enforce the law without having a windfall from doing so. Council member.

01:22:06.146 --> 01:22:08.146
Um, thank you. Having heard all the comments thus far and knowing that this

01:22:10.417 --> 01:22:12.417
will not be Ah, I will not be able to strike this out. I do I do agree with

01:22:14.121 --> 01:22:16.121
you that this is a gentler um um Provision so I

01:22:18.250 --> 01:22:20.250
will be supporting it knowing that thank you. Thank you

01:22:21.495 --> 01:22:23.495
any other comments? The clerk. Please Call the vote on

01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:27.320
the amendment only. Yes, if I might read this amendment

01:22:28.535 --> 01:22:30.535
back into the record, so this is to amend Exhibit a

01:22:31.638 --> 01:22:33.638
Two. State that the

01:22:34.775 --> 01:22:36.775
landlord maybe liable up to three times the

01:22:39.460 --> 01:22:41.460
monthly basis rent.

01:22:42.315 --> 01:22:44.315
Council member Ramsey. I Council

01:22:44.818 --> 01:22:46.818
member Mark High Council

01:22:47.687 --> 01:22:49.687
member McConnell I Mayor

01:22:49.956 --> 01:22:51.956
Scully I, Deputy

01:22:52.926 --> 01:22:54.926
Mayor Robertson Council member, Po B

01:22:56.630 --> 01:22:58.630
Council member Roberts Fine. The motion

01:23:00.500 --> 01:23:02.500
to amend passes you Nan Imus Li are there further motions to amend

01:23:04.337 --> 01:23:06.337
Mary. Mary Mary, Clarify what the clerk just said that this

01:23:08.642 --> 01:23:10.642
was both the maybe liable and up to three times.

01:23:13.146 --> 01:23:15.146
Yeah. That's right. I did you read it back to print Lee?

01:23:16.283 --> 01:23:18.283
Did I. Yes, Yes. It does include

01:23:20.454 --> 01:23:22.454
Okay alright, I have a positive catch that thank you for catching that council

01:23:24.858 --> 01:23:26.858
member, Roberts, Um I think we need to vote again? That's just let's read

01:23:28.962 --> 01:23:30.962
it out accurately and vote again. Just I think I think we all understood,

01:23:32.966 --> 01:23:34.966
but I don't want to make sure they're clean record.

01:23:35.836 --> 01:23:37.836
Yeah. Give me a minute.

01:23:41.740 --> 01:23:43.740
I know.

01:23:43.710 --> 01:23:45.710
So in in four of

01:23:46.346 --> 01:23:48.346
the whole provisions in full for

01:23:49.249 --> 01:23:51.249
subsection B of 9.359. It

01:23:52.152 --> 01:23:54.152
would be a Lion Lord found in violation

01:23:55.155 --> 01:23:57.155
of any of the provisions in this chapter

01:23:58.625 --> 01:24:00.625
unless otherwise provided in this chapter may be liable

01:24:02.596 --> 01:24:04.596
to such a tenant for the greater of double the tenants economic and

01:24:06.666 --> 01:24:08.666
non economic damages or up to three times the monthly base rent.

01:24:10.504 --> 01:24:12.504
Of, the dwelling unit at issue and reasonable litigation costs

01:24:17.511 --> 01:24:19.511
and attorney's fees. Thank you with the court. Please call the vote.

01:24:21.748 --> 01:24:23.748
Mayor Scully Deputy Mayor Robertson Council member Ramsdale.

01:24:25.519 --> 01:24:27.519
I. Remember Mark I Council member McConnell, I Council

01:24:29.789 --> 01:24:31.789
member Probie Council member Roberts Hi. Right. The

01:24:36.830 --> 01:24:38.830
motion to amend passes you nan Amos Lee are there other motions to amend?

01:24:40.200 --> 01:24:42.200
Councilor Mark This is a

01:24:43.270 --> 01:24:45.270
mandatory in motion number six. I

01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:48.640
moved to extend exhibit age reports and

01:24:49.276 --> 01:24:51.276
rent increase. Ah, the

01:24:51.945 --> 01:24:53.945
60 Day notice period for increases of

01:24:55.810 --> 01:24:57.810
3% or less is that guts?

01:24:59.190 --> 01:25:01.190
Is there a second?

01:25:01.454 --> 01:25:03.454
We're waiting for the

01:25:04.357 --> 01:25:06.357
second. Alright. Apparently not. There we go

01:25:07.727 --> 01:25:09.727
alright. See No. Second. The motion fails for lack of a second

01:25:15.268 --> 01:25:17.268
Are there other motions to amend

01:25:18.471 --> 01:25:20.471
Councilor Roberts. Thank you, mayor. I

01:25:25.745 --> 01:25:27.745
move. Adoption of Council Amendment number seven. This

01:25:30.417 --> 01:25:32.417
is related to secure it deposits their second

01:25:33.587 --> 01:25:35.587
Second counselor Roberts. I think you

01:25:36.756 --> 01:25:38.756
this clarifies what this believe This amendment

01:25:40.660 --> 01:25:42.660
is really to relatively clear clarifying what is and what is

01:25:43.964 --> 01:25:45.964
not included in a, uh, security

01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:49.400
deposit. Specifically. It's not We would be, um

01:25:50.971 --> 01:25:52.971
Say that any optional any security for performance

01:25:54.507 --> 01:25:56.507
of tenants of the obligations in the elation to optional rent

01:25:58.545 --> 01:26:00.545
would not be included in security posit and this would be easy.

01:26:03.149 --> 01:26:05.149
When we talk about it. This in the previous discussions that was about pet

01:26:07.387 --> 01:26:09.387
friends. And secure it deposits for pets. Any

01:26:10.900 --> 01:26:12.900
other comments. You know

01:26:13.193 --> 01:26:15.193
I'm supporting this? This was actually a comment from

01:26:16.896 --> 01:26:18.896
Council member or four. Sorry former council members. Chang, who said

01:26:21.401 --> 01:26:23.401
that she thought they would be confusion amongst landlords as to whether

01:26:25.538 --> 01:26:27.538
they could charge a pet deposit fee. This clarifies that the optional rent

01:26:29.876 --> 01:26:31.876
which is things like paying extra rent for pets, Um, you can charge more

01:26:34.114 --> 01:26:36.114
as a security deposit for that, so I am supportive of this because I get

01:26:39.419 --> 01:26:41.419
clarifies what our original intent was. Any other comments. With the clerk.

01:26:43.723 --> 01:26:45.723
Please call it out in the amendment. Council member of Probie Deputy Mayor

01:26:48.940 --> 01:26:50.940
Robertson. Mayor Scully. Council member Mark High Council member McConnell

01:26:51.998 --> 01:26:53.998
I Council member Roberts. High Council member Ramsdale.

01:26:55.735 --> 01:26:57.735
I see motion to a man passes you Nan Imus Lee are there

01:26:59.639 --> 01:27:01.639
other motions to a man?

01:27:02.175 --> 01:27:04.175
Mr Roberts. I move the

01:27:05.945 --> 01:27:07.945
adoption of council Amendment number three.

01:27:09.115 --> 01:27:11.115
Regarding pet fees to pop. It's 50 pets. These

01:27:14.220 --> 01:27:16.220
deposit and teased on it for a second.

01:27:17.657 --> 01:27:19.657
Yeah. Good. Alright. Would you like to discuss your motion

01:27:21.494 --> 01:27:23.494
Council member really quickly, and this is very similar to the

01:27:25.298 --> 01:27:27.298
previous motion around has been clear. If I ng what is what is

01:27:29.402 --> 01:27:31.402
not including specifically regarding around pets.

01:27:32.772 --> 01:27:34.772
Any other comments. The court. Please call the vote in

01:27:35.675 --> 01:27:37.675
the amendment. Yes.

01:27:38.445 --> 01:27:40.445
Mayor Scully, I

01:27:42.282 --> 01:27:44.282
Council member Mark I Council member Roberts

01:27:45.552 --> 01:27:47.552
Council member, Obie right, Deputy

01:27:48.688 --> 01:27:50.688
Mayor Robertson I council member Ramsdale.

01:27:51.624 --> 01:27:53.624
I. Remember McConnell I motion to amend

01:28:01.340 --> 01:28:03.340
passes, You know non asl er there other motions to amend Would

01:28:05.710 --> 01:28:07.710
anyone like to speak further on the motion of Councilor Roberts. Thank you, mayor

01:28:09.476 --> 01:28:11.476
I will be supporting this motion as it's amended. This has been. I will say

01:28:13.446 --> 01:28:15.446
that this is point vision, one of the most difficult

01:28:16.916 --> 01:28:18.916
Uh, policy discussions. We had largely because we

01:28:20.253 --> 01:28:22.253
do recognize the side recognized that there are

01:28:23.923 --> 01:28:25.923
many and potentially many unintended consequences

01:28:27.127 --> 01:28:29.127
that we just mean I don't think we have

01:28:30.430 --> 01:28:32.430
the knowledge of What. Those consequences might be

01:28:33.900 --> 01:28:35.900
referred from many people. Speaking of the

01:28:37.170 --> 01:28:39.170
diocese about how they may have. People may have to raise

01:28:40.373 --> 01:28:42.373
their standards for who they

01:28:43.676 --> 01:28:45.676
rented to. I think that's a concern that we

01:28:47.213 --> 01:28:49.213
need to take into account as we is

01:28:50.617 --> 01:28:52.617
this policy moves forward. One of the things that many of us

01:28:54.530 --> 01:28:56.530
heard at the national Legal Cities General

01:28:56.990 --> 01:28:58.990
City summit at this past week is one of

01:28:59.626 --> 01:29:01.626
this past month. Time

01:29:02.462 --> 01:29:04.462
has flown Is that our incoming

01:29:05.465 --> 01:29:07.465
of the new president describes

01:29:09.369 --> 01:29:11.369
cities as laboratories of democracy and that we have

01:29:13.390 --> 01:29:15.390
We have the privilege and honor of working with

01:29:16.409 --> 01:29:18.409
our communities and developing policies that work

01:29:20.246 --> 01:29:22.246
best for communities and what they work in to drawing

01:29:24.517 --> 01:29:26.517
me. No work in 10 more or may not work in like forced part or

01:29:28.555 --> 01:29:30.555
Any other city across Washington state or even across the nation, So we

01:29:32.826 --> 01:29:34.826
get to experiment and we get to try to figure out what works Best

01:29:36.229 --> 01:29:38.229
for communities and but the flip side of

01:29:38.832 --> 01:29:40.832
that is We need

01:29:41.468 --> 01:29:43.468
Good data to come from this to

01:29:44.204 --> 01:29:46.204
understand if this and to what degree

01:29:47.474 --> 01:29:49.474
this ordinance is effective. We need to have a good

01:29:51.770 --> 01:29:53.770
day to about how what is happening on the

01:29:54.948 --> 01:29:56.948
ground months sisters implemented. Is the be nice to know how many

01:29:58.852 --> 01:30:00.852
Uh times. People bring Ah, a landlord to court under

01:30:02.188 --> 01:30:04.188
this, we would like to know our landlords

01:30:05.425 --> 01:30:07.425
actually raising their standards as this sort of princes

01:30:09.262 --> 01:30:11.262
being passed. How does this affect individuals who made the grunting

01:30:12.499 --> 01:30:14.499
a room room to, uh It's in

01:30:15.602 --> 01:30:17.602
there, house much not even serve a separate you nit.

01:30:19.205 --> 01:30:21.205
So there's some things I'd like to see as we move

01:30:22.141 --> 01:30:24.141
forward with this ordinance. Uh, I

01:30:24.944 --> 01:30:26.944
really like mayor said earlier about

01:30:28.281 --> 01:30:30.281
the concerns around the private right to action. I do

01:30:32.151 --> 01:30:34.151
agree with that and one of the things that can, Connie

01:30:35.922 --> 01:30:37.922
has, But I don't think it is was funded partially through some

01:30:40.126 --> 01:30:42.126
of their covid funds was dispute mediation. And just Pete resolution

01:30:43.796 --> 01:30:45.796
for landlord intends so instead of

01:30:46.633 --> 01:30:48.633
landlords, um renters, lieutenants taking

01:30:49.636 --> 01:30:51.636
their landlords accord Are there other

01:30:52.906 --> 01:30:54.906
processes to actually resolve the dispute that is more

01:30:56.242 --> 01:30:58.242
excess a ble to everyone because there

01:30:59.812 --> 01:31:01.812
are limitations on who has access and he was able to go

01:31:03.883 --> 01:31:05.883
to court. Um So I wouldn't have liked to see that. I also think that

01:31:08.588 --> 01:31:10.588
we really need to bring to registration card. Graham. We don't have to Vanessa

01:31:13.260 --> 01:31:15.260
really Think about what the inspection or inspection piece might look like

01:31:17.463 --> 01:31:19.463
as other cities have, but we need to. I think we have to city We need to

01:31:21.367 --> 01:31:23.367
know who is renting in the city Who are the landlords and What

01:31:25.710 --> 01:31:27.710
is happening on the ground. What's happening with them.

01:31:28.908 --> 01:31:30.908
So I will be supporting this. I think there's definitely work

01:31:32.812 --> 01:31:34.812
that we need to continue to That we need to do in the future to improve

01:31:36.516 --> 01:31:38.516
this ordinance, but I think that at this

01:31:39.852 --> 01:31:41.852
time because the state has not taken action to

01:31:43.690 --> 01:31:45.690
provide more protections to tenants, who have many

01:31:46.826 --> 01:31:48.826
of whom have seen double digit

01:31:49.529 --> 01:31:51.529
increases in their rent with very

01:31:52.131 --> 01:31:54.131
little time. Uh, to find a

01:31:54.667 --> 01:31:56.667
new place. In the specially

01:31:57.637 --> 01:31:59.637
in a housing market where

01:32:01.174 --> 01:32:03.174
rents are or so many people, people are cost burdened in

01:32:04.777 --> 01:32:06.777
Finding a place to live. This ordinance

01:32:08.181 --> 01:32:10.181
I think goes a

01:32:11.117 --> 01:32:13.117
It does help will help people who

01:32:14.621 --> 01:32:16.621
are living in the city. Thank you, ma'am. Any other comments in the motion

01:32:18.291 --> 01:32:20.291
is the mended that counselor Mark and then

01:32:21.227 --> 01:32:23.227
deputy mayor. I really appreciate what

01:32:24.364 --> 01:32:26.364
council member Robert said. I think that data

01:32:27.700 --> 01:32:29.700
is really important. I think that I'm

01:32:30.570 --> 01:32:32.570
Well Cities are crucibles of

01:32:34.730 --> 01:32:36.730
democracy, and I think that's a wonderful thing. I think

01:32:37.877 --> 01:32:39.877
it's important for us to know the impact of our actions

01:32:41.547 --> 01:32:43.547
and the potentially on in pending impact of our actions

01:32:44.584 --> 01:32:46.584
So I really support what Council

01:32:47.453 --> 01:32:49.453
member Robert said about getting rid stray shin

01:32:50.657 --> 01:32:52.657
ultimately and Just ways to follow up

01:32:52.959 --> 01:32:54.959
on it. I

01:32:55.828 --> 01:32:57.828
also, um, second the opinion that he

01:32:59.650 --> 01:33:01.650
said that are The reason that we're talking about

01:33:02.350 --> 01:33:04.350
This is that there has been

01:33:05.238 --> 01:33:07.238
large rent increases with too short a time.

01:33:08.307 --> 01:33:10.307
And. That's why this is been. This

01:33:11.344 --> 01:33:13.344
is important and appreciate the

01:33:14.347 --> 01:33:16.347
city doing that. Thank you. Thank you, deputy Mayor.

01:33:18.551 --> 01:33:20.551
Yeah. Council member Roberts give a really excellent summary. Thank you

01:33:23.156 --> 01:33:25.156
for all of those sharing all your feelings, Um and council member Mark. Thank

01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:29.600
you I I wanted to thank

01:33:30.396 --> 01:33:32.396
Mr Levine. Or is it? Levine?

01:33:33.320 --> 01:33:35.320
Levin and, um and miss, um for

01:33:36.169 --> 01:33:38.169
being here and every single three meetings where

01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:42.239
we had public comment and discuss this and all the community members who

01:33:44.744 --> 01:33:46.744
weighed in it was suggested tonight that this was just a start. That's not

01:33:49.215 --> 01:33:51.215
how I feel. I feel like this. I'm really good. I feel like the amendments

01:33:53.553 --> 01:33:55.553
that we proposed tonight has actually made this ordinance better

01:33:57.724 --> 01:33:59.724
um, stronger and more closely aligned with the goals that we were hoping

01:34:01.494 --> 01:34:03.494
for at the outset of this journey. Um and I

01:34:05.164 --> 01:34:07.164
really hope you described your involvement and wanting to be involved

01:34:09.802 --> 01:34:11.802
I really hope that we continue. To be engaged in a dialogue and as my other

01:34:14.173 --> 01:34:16.173
council members have said, we do want real time and for mation about

01:34:18.978 --> 01:34:20.978
the impacts of this so that we can adjust as we as we move forward, listen

01:34:23.516 --> 01:34:25.516
to absorb and adjust. I also mentioned, you know, several meetings ago

01:34:27.453 --> 01:34:29.453
that my motivation is, you know, pulling one of the levers.

01:34:31.290 --> 01:34:33.290
It's not the only one but one of the levels that we can pull to address

01:34:36.280 --> 01:34:38.280
the homeless crisis homelessness crisis in our region.

01:34:39.332 --> 01:34:41.332
Um, we have to stem the tide of people who

01:34:42.935 --> 01:34:44.935
are becoming unhappy housed. That doesn't mean at all costs, and

01:34:46.572 --> 01:34:48.572
that doesn't you know mean at the at the absolute

01:34:50.443 --> 01:34:52.443
cost and detriment of landlords? Um, but I'm

01:34:53.679 --> 01:34:55.679
happy to see you What, I believe is the council

01:34:58.818 --> 01:35:00.818
moving forward with this ordinance? Thank you.

01:35:01.921 --> 01:35:03.921
Councilor McConnell Um Thank you.

01:35:04.690 --> 01:35:06.690
Although I did support many

01:35:07.426 --> 01:35:09.426
of these amendments. I

01:35:12.165 --> 01:35:14.165
cannot support the final. Ordinance.

01:35:15.234 --> 01:35:17.234
People. People have not mentioned.

01:35:18.504 --> 01:35:20.504
What Anything except Me

01:35:21.374 --> 01:35:23.374
that 2 to 3 years during the

01:35:24.243 --> 01:35:26.243
pandemic, where landlords

01:35:26.579 --> 01:35:28.579
willingly legally had to

01:35:28.981 --> 01:35:30.981
not evict, but also not

01:35:31.984 --> 01:35:33.984
to raise rents. Etcetera I was holding

01:35:34.954 --> 01:35:36.954
my breath that I would not be one of

01:35:37.924 --> 01:35:39.924
those landlords who and her to many

01:35:41.194 --> 01:35:43.194
stories of people just not paying their rent. Some

01:35:44.497 --> 01:35:46.497
people who actually could afford to, but didn't

01:35:48.267 --> 01:35:50.267
now again. You know these are all these little stories

01:35:51.604 --> 01:35:53.604
and I collectively have the

01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:56.640
experience to know that

01:35:57.443 --> 01:35:59.443
one story does not make A law, you know

01:36:00.112 --> 01:36:02.112
for me so We didn't hear a

01:36:02.782 --> 01:36:04.782
whole lot of data. Or maybe not at

01:36:05.318 --> 01:36:07.318
all about really the The

01:36:08.454 --> 01:36:10.454
flavor of the evictions that are out

01:36:11.757 --> 01:36:13.757
there. Are. They all People who couldn't

01:36:15.610 --> 01:36:17.610
pay and there being a victim by their landlords, or is

01:36:18.698 --> 01:36:20.698
it a combination of land lords? Finally

01:36:21.834 --> 01:36:23.834
having some legal Recourse after the

01:36:25.304 --> 01:36:27.304
lifting of the more it story. Um I'm just

01:36:28.507 --> 01:36:30.507
putting out all these questions out. Into the

01:36:31.577 --> 01:36:33.577
public because I I provide That. The

01:36:34.947 --> 01:36:36.947
small houses I have it's affordable housing. They're

01:36:37.984 --> 01:36:39.984
older homes. I stay within

01:36:40.486 --> 01:36:42.486
the range and fix them up

01:36:43.222 --> 01:36:45.222
when I can they're not slumlord

01:36:45.558 --> 01:36:47.558
type things, but

01:36:48.794 --> 01:36:50.794
But. I am actually very grateful that I'm

01:36:52.198 --> 01:36:54.198
at the end of doing this because of their is you just

01:36:55.534 --> 01:36:57.534
So much, Uh, uncertainty out there for people

01:36:59.710 --> 01:37:01.710
who actually want to make a living, but do the right thing

01:37:02.410 --> 01:37:04.410
you know to help with

01:37:05.144 --> 01:37:07.144
the situation. So affordable housing. Like

01:37:08.140 --> 01:37:10.140
I said many meetings ago it's

01:37:10.750 --> 01:37:12.750
not about really this

01:37:13.486 --> 01:37:15.486
level. It's about people having a

01:37:16.489 --> 01:37:18.489
good wages, people having decent

01:37:19.358 --> 01:37:21.358
access to jobs. Uh, you know the

01:37:21.994 --> 01:37:23.994
top 10% make, you know, Bring in

01:37:24.864 --> 01:37:26.864
more money than the rest of us. I mean, what

01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:29.800
are crying Shame? So again. Thank

01:37:30.403 --> 01:37:32.403
you for my colleagues for

01:37:33.500 --> 01:37:35.500
making amendments trying to listen

01:37:35.741 --> 01:37:37.741
to the both sides, But. I

01:37:38.770 --> 01:37:40.770
still don't I believe

01:37:41.213 --> 01:37:43.213
that that in the next few years we will find

01:37:44.550 --> 01:37:46.550
out that this is actually not going to be doing what

01:37:48.487 --> 01:37:50.487
we hoped it would do so I won't be supporting it. Any other

01:37:51.991 --> 01:37:53.991
comments on the motion as amended.

01:37:56.696 --> 01:37:58.696
With the Kirk. Please call the vote on the motion is amended. Council

01:38:00.599 --> 01:38:02.599
member Mark Hi.

01:38:03.135 --> 01:38:05.135
Council member Roberts.

01:38:05.938 --> 01:38:07.938
Hi. Council member McConnell

01:38:09.608 --> 01:38:11.608
NEE Deputy Mayor Robertson

01:38:12.645 --> 01:38:14.645
by Scully. Council

01:38:15.810 --> 01:38:17.810
member Ram Ramsdell.

01:38:18.500 --> 01:38:20.500
All right. Council member, Obie High right

01:38:21.954 --> 01:38:23.954
The motion is amended passes 6 to 1. Next up

01:38:24.991 --> 01:38:26.991
on the agenda is action item now

01:38:27.893 --> 01:38:29.893
eight C, which is action Ordinance number

01:38:31.163 --> 01:38:33.163
997 amending title 20 of the Shoreline municipal Code. I

01:38:39.710 --> 01:38:41.710
believe Miss Walters were presenting

01:38:45.344 --> 01:38:47.344
This is 77

01:38:49.281 --> 01:38:51.281
You can't yourself twice the time

01:38:51.684 --> 01:38:53.684
to go? Yeah.

01:39:09.535 --> 01:39:11.535
Yeah, Miss Walters. I don't want

01:39:12.338 --> 01:39:14.338
to reupped. Good evening. Um I

01:39:14.907 --> 01:39:16.907
am pleased to be here this

01:39:17.576 --> 01:39:19.576
evening to provide in

01:39:20.613 --> 01:39:22.613
overview of the transportation

01:39:25.184 --> 01:39:27.184
Concurrency Update ordinance. As well as the potential amendment.

01:39:32.958 --> 01:39:34.958
Yeah. Last time.

01:39:37.496 --> 01:39:39.496
And down, right? Um

01:39:40.466 --> 01:39:42.466
Okay alright in review

01:39:43.602 --> 01:39:45.602
This is the second presentation that

01:39:46.272 --> 01:39:48.272
we have provided counsel.

01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:51.800
On the concurrence update

01:39:51.644 --> 01:39:53.644
Last year we provided and the overview

01:39:54.780 --> 01:39:56.780
of the multimodal concurrency approaches part of

01:39:58.784 --> 01:40:00.784
the transportation element, which was adopted. I went to planning commission

01:40:03.890 --> 01:40:05.890
earlier this year. We had an ordinance discussing the proposal

01:40:06.992 --> 01:40:08.992
Language changes. I would be will be providing or review tonight.

01:40:10.620 --> 01:40:12.620
For action. Um, the as

01:40:12.565 --> 01:40:14.565
indicated the staff report.

01:40:15.568 --> 01:40:17.568
The ordinance adjusts to Concurrency program from

01:40:19.171 --> 01:40:21.171
a vehicle based level of service to multi modal

01:40:22.508 --> 01:40:24.508
Um, and adopts the shoreline Municipal code chapter

01:40:26.212 --> 01:40:28.212
20 amendments consistent with the transportation element with an

01:40:31.183 --> 01:40:33.183
effective date of March of 2024 to provide for training.

01:40:35.287 --> 01:40:37.287
And during the last council presentation.

01:40:38.124 --> 01:40:40.124
It was identified a requested an

01:40:41.427 --> 01:40:43.427
amendment to the proposed ordinance, which staff

01:40:45.831 --> 01:40:47.831
concurs with to provide some more clarity about the intent of the ordinance. If

01:40:50.636 --> 01:40:52.636
you council members would like to move this amendment staff recommends using

01:40:54.874 --> 01:40:56.874
the, um, end a Torrey motion language and the staff report.

01:40:58.844 --> 01:41:00.844
And staff recommends the clarifying amendment be moved tonight

01:41:02.915 --> 01:41:04.915
and that the proposed ordinance via adopted as amended

01:41:10.189 --> 01:41:12.189
All right. Thank you? Is there an opening motion.

01:41:13.893 --> 01:41:15.893
I move. We approve Ordinance number 997 Amending title

01:41:18.300 --> 01:41:20.300
20 of the shore line Municipal Code to update transportation level

01:41:21.200 --> 01:41:23.200
of service and can currency.

01:41:23.636 --> 01:41:25.636
Is there a second?

01:41:26.572 --> 01:41:28.572
Second motion in a second would like to discuss

01:41:31.100 --> 01:41:33.100
The motion, or are there any amendments? I don't

01:41:34.613 --> 01:41:36.613
have any amendments and I plan to

01:41:38.317 --> 01:41:40.317
support this. I'm not ordinance.

01:41:40.819 --> 01:41:42.819
All right. Anyone else

01:41:46.580 --> 01:41:48.580
have comments or amendments.

01:41:49.280 --> 01:41:51.280
Alright. Cast member, Roberts is going to save

01:41:52.131 --> 01:41:54.131
me here. Yes. I will baby sure

01:41:55.501 --> 01:41:57.501
Uh, describe go back to the screen. With

01:41:58.370 --> 01:42:00.370
The amendments. That's proposed.

01:42:01.340 --> 01:42:03.340
Thank you to Manda Ordinance

01:42:04.610 --> 01:42:06.610
997 by modifying the language set forth in SMC

01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:10.800
2061 40 adequate streets with the

01:42:11.617 --> 01:42:13.617
proposed amended code language attached to the December 11th

01:42:15.387 --> 01:42:17.387
2023 staff report has attachments. Is there a

01:42:19.580 --> 01:42:21.580
2nd 2nd then? Alright, Counselor, would you like to speak to your motion?

01:42:23.329 --> 01:42:25.329
Very sweet briefly, but I think this really helps

01:42:26.932 --> 01:42:28.932
um, you know, and I'll just turn it over

01:42:30.302 --> 01:42:32.302
you, man. Alright any other comments?

01:42:33.572 --> 01:42:35.572
Alright the purpose. This this strikes the sidewalk with

01:42:37.476 --> 01:42:39.476
which I don't. I'm. Not entirely clear what it was in there in the first

01:42:42.140 --> 01:42:44.140
place, but we can address sidewalk with another places like the engineering

01:42:46.518 --> 01:42:48.518
design manual and most of the comments we've had concerns with this motion

01:42:50.723 --> 01:42:52.723
have been limited. That one the light. Um and so this just takes it out,

01:42:55.127 --> 01:42:57.127
and we can take up that issue. Focused on it rather than focused on person

01:42:59.498 --> 01:43:01.498
versus vehicle trips, which is a fairly separate concept. Uh, you know the

01:43:04.203 --> 01:43:06.203
comments on the other than any other comments on the amendment? Will the

01:43:08.674 --> 01:43:10.674
court. Please call the vote on the amendment. Mayor Scully Hi council member

01:43:12.911 --> 01:43:14.911
Rams down I. Remember Roberts. High Council member Probie Council member

01:43:17.116 --> 01:43:19.116
McConnell Council member Mark. I Deputy Mayor Robertson High

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The motion passes 6 to 0 Councilman McConnell has stepped away.

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Um, any other comment Any other amendments or comments on the motion as

01:43:31.263 --> 01:43:33.263
a man ended Right? Well the clerk. Please call the vote on the motion is

01:43:36.969 --> 01:43:38.969
amended. Mayor Scully. Hi. Deputy Mayor Robertson High Council member Roberts

01:43:40.806 --> 01:43:42.806
Council member. Do you want to speak? I did, but

01:43:43.776 --> 01:43:45.776
I was hoping that member of get

01:43:46.545 --> 01:43:48.545
back in time for the vote. I don't

01:43:49.815 --> 01:43:51.815
want to recess. I think we're gonna go ahead

01:43:53.585 --> 01:43:55.585
of that? Do you have a comment You'd like to make before we continue with

01:43:57.389 --> 01:43:59.389
the vote. I was white. If she I will say I

01:44:00.250 --> 01:44:02.250
All right. Council

01:44:02.594 --> 01:44:04.594
member, Obie, a council

01:44:04.963 --> 01:44:06.963
member, Mark I Council

01:44:07.499 --> 01:44:09.499
member Ramsdale. I And Council

01:44:10.736 --> 01:44:12.736
member. McConnell is not here.

01:44:14.340 --> 01:44:16.340
I don't think he called me, man. I

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So. It's It's six to none with council member

01:44:20.913 --> 01:44:22.913
McConnell temporarily absent and I think that concludes this

01:44:24.850 --> 01:44:26.850
item. Correct. Alright, we're gonna move on to steady Item nine A, which

01:44:29.254 --> 01:44:31.254
is a discussion of Ordinance number 999 related to amending the code

01:44:33.492 --> 01:44:35.492
to establish permanent regulations for major and minor fleet bases.

01:44:57.483 --> 01:44:59.483
Miss Lee.

01:45:00.452 --> 01:45:02.452
Thank you? Good Evening, Mayor and Council

01:45:03.622 --> 01:45:05.622
I'm Kate Leigh. I'm a planner and the planning and

01:45:07.459 --> 01:45:09.459
Community Development department who represent this item. This item is

01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:14.640
now being referred to as major and minor fleet bases, but up until now

01:45:16.100 --> 01:45:18.100
was referred to as transit bus base and individual transportation

01:45:20.105 --> 01:45:22.105
and taxi facilities. The renaming is due to the proposed code amendments

01:45:27.246 --> 01:45:29.246
and front of you.

01:45:30.883 --> 01:45:32.883
The presentation will follow the outline on this slide

01:45:34.486 --> 01:45:36.486
starting with background moving into public involvement

01:45:38.290 --> 01:45:40.290
on this issue. Next going into the posed code and ending with

01:45:44.296 --> 01:45:46.296
next steps.

01:45:47.990 --> 01:45:49.990
So there are two facilities in

01:45:50.200 --> 01:45:52.200
the city that meet the definition of transit

01:45:53.472 --> 01:45:55.472
bus base, and there are no facilities operating in

01:45:58.577 --> 01:46:00.577
the city that are considered individual transportation and taxi facilities. The

01:46:02.781 --> 01:46:04.781
Two bus bases Our shown on the map here on the slide. The, King County

01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:09.520
Metro north base is located and operating in the

01:46:10.622 --> 01:46:12.622
Meridian Park neighborhood. Just west of I. Five were North

01:46:14.526 --> 01:46:16.526
1 65th Street dead ends. It was operational by

01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:20.300
1990 before the city of Shoreline was incorporated in

01:46:22.334 --> 01:46:24.334
1995. The other transit bus base.

01:46:25.504 --> 01:46:27.504
Is operating in the Ridgecrest neighborhood at

01:46:29.700 --> 01:46:31.700
the southwest intersection of Fifth Avenue, Northeast and

01:46:33.212 --> 01:46:35.212
North 165 5th Street. It

01:46:35.747 --> 01:46:37.747
was operated. It is being used as

01:46:38.851 --> 01:46:40.851
an access van, storage repair and

01:46:42.621 --> 01:46:44.621
dispatch site. The site was originally developed in

01:46:46.425 --> 01:46:48.425
the 19 fifties. As a bingo hall and has been used as an access

01:46:55.300 --> 01:46:57.300
fan sites since about 2012.

01:46:58.670 --> 01:47:00.670
So shortly before the city was in corporation in

01:47:01.740 --> 01:47:03.740
1995 Council adopted ordinance number

01:47:04.676 --> 01:47:06.676
11 the Cities interim zoning regulations were

01:47:08.247 --> 01:47:10.247
which were essentially titled 21, A of the King County Code

01:47:11.483 --> 01:47:13.483
with a few changes. At. That time both

01:47:15.354 --> 01:47:17.354
individual transportation, taxi and transit base where defined in

01:47:19.625 --> 01:47:21.625
the shoreline Municipal code, and we're allowed either as permitted, uses

01:47:23.896 --> 01:47:25.896
or special uses and several zoning categories. The City has significantly changed

01:47:28.567 --> 01:47:30.567
since incorporation, including the creation of silvery A plans in the town

01:47:32.738 --> 01:47:34.738
center and the two light rail stations. With corresponding new zones for

01:47:37.276 --> 01:47:39.276
the town center and the mixed use residential zones around the station areas.

01:47:41.847 --> 01:47:43.847
In the context of all this change these to uses of gone and examined since

01:47:46.318 --> 01:47:48.318
the corporation On July 17th of this year City Council you Nan Imus Lee

01:47:50.188 --> 01:47:52.188
adopted Ordinance number 91991, which in the acted and

01:47:54.426 --> 01:47:56.426
emergency six month moratorium that prohibited the city from accepting

01:47:59.464 --> 01:48:01.464
processing and or approving all applications or permits for any transit

01:48:04.169 --> 01:48:06.169
bus bases. An individual transportation and taxi facilities well staffed

01:48:08.574 --> 01:48:10.574
can further study this issue. On August 14th Council held the required public hearing

01:48:12.878 --> 01:48:14.878
on this ordinance and September of this year Staff conducted research

01:48:17.449 --> 01:48:19.449
into other cities and King County and how these to use is our regulated.

01:48:20.786 --> 01:48:22.786
On October. In September of

01:48:23.422 --> 01:48:25.422
this year on October

01:48:26.525 --> 01:48:28.525
19th Planning Commission discussed this item in

01:48:33.765 --> 01:48:35.765
a on on November, 16th held up public hearing.

01:48:37.690 --> 01:48:39.690
Throughout the public process. The City has

01:48:41.390 --> 01:48:43.390
received comments from representatives of the property owner of

01:48:45.100 --> 01:48:47.100
the Access fan site. And King County Metro The comments expressed concern

01:48:49.414 --> 01:48:51.414
about the more it Torrey, um, and the ability to locate the access fan

01:48:53.785 --> 01:48:55.785
operation on another site in the city of Shoreline. City staff in King County

01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.560
Metro staff met on September 12th. To discuss Metro

01:49:01.927 --> 01:49:03.927
Citing needs. The research done by staff so far

01:49:05.970 --> 01:49:07.970
in that steps on finding a location

01:49:07.933 --> 01:49:09.933
for the access fan site. City

01:49:11.169 --> 01:49:13.169
staff representatives for the property owner of the Access fan site

01:49:17.342 --> 01:49:19.342
and King County Metro staff met again under them Birth 30th.

01:49:21.647 --> 01:49:23.647
The city determined that the proposed development code of minimal amendments

01:49:26.184 --> 01:49:28.184
will not have a problem. Probable significant adverse impact on the environment

01:49:30.155 --> 01:49:32.155
and on October 26 issued a state of iron Mental Policy

01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:36.920
Act determination of non significance. The City only received one

01:49:38.196 --> 01:49:40.196
non comic comment from a tribal agency stating they had

01:49:45.300 --> 01:49:47.300
no comment on the proposal. The

01:49:48.640 --> 01:49:50.640
proposed amendments or summarizing the staff report itself and also

01:49:52.244 --> 01:49:54.244
an exhibit A two attachment of the staff report. Those

01:49:56.181 --> 01:49:58.181
are in the legislative format, where additions to the code or underline

01:50:00.352 --> 01:50:02.352
and deletions or shown in strikethrough. The languages based on research

01:50:04.690 --> 01:50:06.690
conducted I City staff and input from the Planning Commission. The definitions

01:50:09.528 --> 01:50:11.528
for Fleet based major and Fleet based miner are added. The difference between these

01:50:14.366 --> 01:50:16.366
two uses are the size of vehicle stored, repaired and dispatched from the

01:50:19.337 --> 01:50:21.337
location. The definition of transit bus base is proposed to be deleted.

01:50:23.775 --> 01:50:25.775
Additional decision criteria are proposed for minor fleet based use when

01:50:28.113 --> 01:50:30.113
it is a conditional use. And for the minor fleet based use and major fleet

01:50:32.350 --> 01:50:34.350
based use when they are special uses. There are five

01:50:36.588 --> 01:50:38.588
decision criteria proposed intended to ensure a pro pre, It's I ting and

01:50:41.260 --> 01:50:43.260
limiting impacts on surrounding areas Where these uses would locate in the

01:50:45.330 --> 01:50:47.330
future. Minor Fleet base. Is proposed to be a conditional use in

01:50:49.334 --> 01:50:51.334
the community business and mixed business zones and a special use in the

01:50:53.405 --> 01:50:55.405
are four through our 48 residential zones. Major Fleet bases

01:50:57.109 --> 01:50:59.109
proposed to be a special use in the are four through our our

01:51:01.580 --> 01:51:03.580
48 zones and the community business and mixed business zones. The

01:51:05.450 --> 01:51:07.450
Transit bus based use and individual transportation and taxi use

01:51:12.791 --> 01:51:14.791
are proposed to be deleted from the use charts.

01:51:16.561 --> 01:51:18.561
Proposed ordinance number. 999 is currently scheduled to be brought back

01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:23.600
to Council for potential action on January 8th 2024.

01:51:25.637 --> 01:51:27.637
The emergency more it Ori, um expires January 17th.

01:51:29.307 --> 01:51:31.307
Unless extended through council action and that's all I have for

01:51:33.545 --> 01:51:35.545
you tonight. Thank you. Thank you. This is a study items. We can go straight

01:51:37.983 --> 01:51:39.983
to discussion. I just want to read iterated that we cannot get legal advice

01:51:46.570 --> 01:51:48.570
in an open public meeting if we do that, we have to do an executive session.

01:51:50.362 --> 01:51:52.362
Or their questions or comments from council. Cancer and work. The Planning

01:51:55.100 --> 01:51:57.100
Commission on what? How did that go? And what was their outcome? We had

01:51:59.604 --> 01:52:01.604
to meetings with the Planning Commission, one in October, where the item

01:52:04.109 --> 01:52:06.109
was discussed, and we receive feedback for any proposed changes to

01:52:08.180 --> 01:52:10.180
The language that staff has was contemplating at the time we receive feedback

01:52:12.617 --> 01:52:14.617
from the Planning Commission. Um they expressed concerns about

01:52:16.521 --> 01:52:18.521
some impacts. With. The use related to odors, so we added, in

01:52:20.292 --> 01:52:22.292
some language, specifically addressing odor this uses

01:52:23.862 --> 01:52:25.862
proposed to be either a conditional use or special use

01:52:27.432 --> 01:52:29.432
And. So. Um, the decision criteria recognized that that

01:52:30.635 --> 01:52:32.635
would be one of the factors to consider

01:52:33.972 --> 01:52:35.972
mitigation and approving the use. Um, there are some other

01:52:38.376 --> 01:52:40.376
questions about, um The proposal would allow

01:52:42.514 --> 01:52:44.514
The use in the community business zone only when located on the

01:52:46.351 --> 01:52:48.351
state highway. Yeah and Planning Commission. How to question about

01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:52.880
the term state highway versus principle arterial and there

01:52:53.525 --> 01:52:55.525
is a significant difference. Principle arterial

01:52:57.362 --> 01:52:59.362
would include parts of the city where the this use would not

01:53:01.132 --> 01:53:03.132
be recommended for approval by city staff such as North City.

01:53:04.970 --> 01:53:06.970
Where were really the vision of the comprehensive plan is

01:53:08.373 --> 01:53:10.373
for mixed use Commercial multi

01:53:11.376 --> 01:53:13.376
family vibrant urban center, um not uses that

01:53:18.216 --> 01:53:20.216
are either light industrial or vehicle oriented in nature.

01:53:23.154 --> 01:53:25.154
Thank you. The question is more Roberts.

01:53:26.691 --> 01:53:28.691
Thank you Planning commission to consider.

01:53:29.394 --> 01:53:31.394
Uh, conditionally uses for

01:53:34.866 --> 01:53:36.866
other sites or the city.

01:53:39.204 --> 01:53:41.204
You mean for these two specific uses. For

01:53:42.107 --> 01:53:44.107
the Yes for these two

01:53:44.542 --> 01:53:46.542
Yeah. We, Uh, staff

01:53:47.212 --> 01:53:49.212
presented recommendations based on

01:53:50.150 --> 01:53:52.150
where we saw these other uses, located

01:53:52.717 --> 01:53:54.717
throughout the county. Um, we

01:53:56.221 --> 01:53:58.221
don't have industrial zoning district and the city of short

01:53:59.624 --> 01:54:01.624
in the highest In most intense

01:54:02.994 --> 01:54:04.994
commercial zoning district we have is mixed business

01:54:06.531 --> 01:54:08.531
And so that's what the city recommendations were

01:54:10.302 --> 01:54:12.302
based on. Um all the other.

01:54:13.605 --> 01:54:15.605
City codes that we looked at and where these

01:54:17.108 --> 01:54:19.108
bases are currently operational.

01:54:20.378 --> 01:54:22.378
These are industrial zones or heavy commercial zones

01:54:23.481 --> 01:54:25.481
where these uses are allowed.

01:54:26.351 --> 01:54:28.351
So Planning Commission had the opportunity

01:54:29.870 --> 01:54:31.870
to look at and direct staff

01:54:31.990 --> 01:54:33.990
to study other zoning districts where this could

01:54:35.327 --> 01:54:37.327
be allowed. The did not do so.

01:54:37.729 --> 01:54:39.729
Does. This Ordinance

01:54:40.598 --> 01:54:42.598
um, specify. Who, the operator

01:54:44.135 --> 01:54:46.135
of a transit service would be

01:54:46.604 --> 01:54:48.604
Good thing. It does

01:54:49.307 --> 01:54:51.307
not, um, it defines the to use is

01:54:52.430 --> 01:54:54.430
between major and minor based on

01:54:55.280 --> 01:54:57.280
the size of the vehicle repaired

01:54:58.616 --> 01:55:00.616
and dispatch the 30 ft. And under the length of the

01:55:02.187 --> 01:55:04.187
vehicle, 30 ft and under would be minor 30 ft and over would be

01:55:05.857 --> 01:55:07.857
a major, um, the reasoning There is

01:55:08.727 --> 01:55:10.727
the larger the vehicle is the

01:55:11.730 --> 01:55:13.730
louder, more impact on roadways

01:55:15.233 --> 01:55:17.233
More odor impacts, emission impacts

01:55:18.470 --> 01:55:20.470
things of that nature. So, um The operators

01:55:21.506 --> 01:55:23.506
is not to consideration. It's the impact of

01:55:25.243 --> 01:55:27.243
the vehicles that are repaired and dispatch from the site.

01:55:28.780 --> 01:55:30.780
Okay on the map that was shown civil

01:55:32.183 --> 01:55:34.183
sides before. Slight three years

01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:37.520
shows to, um Facilities North based facility

01:55:38.456 --> 01:55:40.456
in the access the M facility.

01:55:41.726 --> 01:55:43.726
They're actually have has there been discussion have

01:55:46.398 --> 01:55:48.398
with the school district about its transit facilities.

01:55:50.350 --> 01:55:52.350
There is not. There's another youth in the used to be able to

01:55:53.805 --> 01:55:55.805
called school bus base, which would which would

01:55:57.175 --> 01:55:59.175
be further defined outlined in the use charts. So

01:56:03.214 --> 01:56:05.214
Um, this is not specific to school Busses.

01:56:06.718 --> 01:56:08.718
I mean the principle. I would presume is

01:56:10.188 --> 01:56:12.188
the same. It

01:56:13.240 --> 01:56:15.240
is, um it is outlined as it so news in

01:56:16.394 --> 01:56:18.394
the use chart. So when looking at

01:56:19.564 --> 01:56:21.564
How were going to define a use if there's a

01:56:22.834 --> 01:56:24.834
use that's more specific to an operation. It would be that

01:56:26.204 --> 01:56:28.204
more specific use rather than a broad use

01:56:29.740 --> 01:56:31.740
We certainly could go back and look

01:56:32.770 --> 01:56:34.770
at that, Um It. You know, it would mean the

01:56:35.213 --> 01:56:37.213
next N shin moratorium, perhaps, and things of

01:56:38.249 --> 01:56:40.249
that nature. Mhm. I'll just say that

01:56:41.286 --> 01:56:43.286
I have concerns about this ordinance. I

01:56:44.722 --> 01:56:46.722
think that it This.

01:56:48.260 --> 01:56:50.260
Setting aside the still the street facility for

01:56:51.329 --> 01:56:53.329
a moment. I think that we need

01:56:53.898 --> 01:56:55.898
to be careful about

01:56:56.734 --> 01:56:58.734
Pushing uses out of the city and

01:57:01.206 --> 01:57:03.206
other established But places where

01:57:04.542 --> 01:57:06.542
There is established. There are s tablets businesses. I think

01:57:08.246 --> 01:57:10.246
we need to be careful about that. And

01:57:13.485 --> 01:57:15.485
I Recommend this coming

01:57:16.287 --> 01:57:18.287
back with some sort of traditional use

01:57:19.230 --> 01:57:21.230
for other areas of cities.

01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:24.600
Thank you, ma'am. Other questions

01:57:25.196 --> 01:57:27.196
are comments. Alright, I've

01:57:28.466 --> 01:57:30.466
I've been emailing with city Petra Ellington

01:57:32.337 --> 01:57:34.337
and he's indicated that we were able to have an executive session to address

01:57:38.510 --> 01:57:40.510
the legal parts of it before the January 8th meetings that accurate

01:57:42.247 --> 01:57:44.247
Recommending that the secretary session the held on January

01:57:46.117 --> 01:57:48.117
right now, right before before we take a vote, Obviously. Okay. All right.

01:57:50.588 --> 01:57:52.588
So what? We'll do that and we'll be able to ask our attorneys questions

01:57:55.593 --> 01:57:57.593
about potential litigation. The reason we need to do it on that timeline

01:58:01.432 --> 01:58:03.432
is the moratorium expires, so we really ideally want to get this done before