WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 00:00:04.835 --> 00:00:06.835 Recording in progress. 00:00:07.337 --> 00:00:09.337 I now called to all 00:00:10.774 --> 00:00:12.774 the shorelines City Council regular meeting 00:00:14.444 --> 00:00:16.444 from under a July 24th. 2023 Will you please join me in 00:00:18.315 --> 00:00:20.315 the flag salute. 00:00:24.154 --> 00:00:26.154 Certificate. 00:00:30.393 --> 00:00:32.393 She's wonderful. 00:00:34.331 --> 00:00:36.331 Thank you. With a click. Please call the Roll 00:00:37.400 --> 00:00:39.400 Mayor Scali. President is, um Deputy 00:00:40.170 --> 00:00:42.170 Mayor Robertson. President via zoom. 00:00:43.473 --> 00:00:45.473 Council member Ramsey President, Council 00:00:46.443 --> 00:00:48.443 member Mark Here remember McConnell 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:51.679 here, Council member of Toby here. Council 00:00:52.849 --> 00:00:54.849 member Roberts, Man 00:00:55.252 --> 00:00:57.252 move to Excuse Council 00:01:00.924 --> 00:01:02.924 member Roberts. Um, Never Mind, Harry. 00:01:08.765 --> 00:01:10.765 All right Councilor member Robinson joined. So. Thank you. 00:01:12.335 --> 00:01:14.335 On. The agenda is the approval. Of 00:01:15.138 --> 00:01:17.138 the agenda, so if there are no objections 00:01:18.174 --> 00:01:20.174 or comments At. Any objection comments from 00:01:21.144 --> 00:01:23.144 council members If. Not, then the 00:01:24.581 --> 00:01:26.581 agenda's adopted by, you know Imus consent. Nexus report from 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.719 city Man selling turn 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:35.560 Good Evening Council. We have another full week of 00:01:36.693 --> 00:01:38.693 free summary events coming up the lunch 00:01:39.796 --> 00:01:41.796 time concert series continues on Tuesday at noon with 00:01:43.934 --> 00:01:45.934 a reptile show by Reptile aisles. Cromwell Park. 00:01:47.270 --> 00:01:49.270 Lunchtime concerts take place every Tuesday through 00:01:51.207 --> 00:01:53.207 August 1st. He could find the schedule at shoreline wh dot gov for 00:01:55.211 --> 00:01:57.211 its slash lunchtime. We have another evening of karaoke in the 00:01:58.815 --> 00:02:00.815 park also coming up this Tuesday visit from well 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.519 park from 5 P.m. to 8 P.m. M and seeing your favorites. 00:02:06.723 --> 00:02:08.723 This event is free, and anyone can participate. 00:02:10.193 --> 00:02:12.193 Please join us on July 26 00:02:12.829 --> 00:02:14.829 6 from 67 P M for virtual presentation 00:02:15.932 --> 00:02:17.932 of the proposed improvements of burgers, Bog par Cook. 00:02:19.836 --> 00:02:21.836 We will talk about the specific details and ask for your feedback 00:02:23.607 --> 00:02:25.607 on the proposal so we can address potential impacts and 00:02:27.410 --> 00:02:29.410 problem solved together. Visit shoreline dot gov Sports 00:02:31.748 --> 00:02:33.748 slash calendar for the link to the virtual meeting. The 00:02:35.418 --> 00:02:37.418 City and Shore Lake Arts are partnering for concert in the 00:02:38.822 --> 00:02:40.822 park on July 26. The Cuckoo Berg Botanic 00:02:41.758 --> 00:02:43.758 Garden on Wednesday at 6:30 P.m. two 00:02:45.328 --> 00:02:47.328 Enjoy a still band performance by the two cans. 00:02:49.299 --> 00:02:51.299 Concerts in the park are free and no tickets needed. 00:02:53.903 --> 00:02:55.903 Arrived early bring seating or blanket in, enjoy the show. 00:02:57.841 --> 00:02:59.841 Shoreline walks continues Thursday with the weekday 00:03:02.780 --> 00:03:04.780 walk exploring to history of the borders in boundaries that have developed 00:03:06.182 --> 00:03:08.182 over time and short. Be a part of the conversation with the Shoreline 00:03:10.153 --> 00:03:12.153 Historical Museum. Me, your walk leader at 10 A.m. M at the 00:03:13.657 --> 00:03:15.657 shore line Historical Museum. And to learn more in 00:03:16.826 --> 00:03:18.826 see other up coming walks at shoreline w 00:03:20.530 --> 00:03:22.530 a dot gov forward slash shoreline walks And 00:03:23.733 --> 00:03:25.733 Don't miss the final week of our annual low tide 00:03:27.404 --> 00:03:29.404 beats exploration next week. Monday's low 00:03:30.373 --> 00:03:32.373 tide times are 9:30 a.m. M to 12 P.m.. 00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:36.110 Volunteer beach naturalists will help you find 00:03:37.480 --> 00:03:39.480 the living wonders on our shore and can help 00:03:40.583 --> 00:03:42.583 you explore gently to keep the animals and 00:03:43.586 --> 00:03:45.586 their homes safe. Get the dates, times and 00:03:47.424 --> 00:03:49.424 more information at shoreline dot gov forward slash 00:03:50.460 --> 00:03:52.460 low tides and finally, here's are 00:03:53.396 --> 00:03:55.396 scheduled for upcoming public meetings. The 00:03:56.733 --> 00:03:58.733 next meeting on the calendar is the 00:03:59.936 --> 00:04:01.936 PRC s tree board in that they're meeting Thursday at 00:04:04.307 --> 00:04:06.307 7, P.m. E M and will be discussing the updates of the pro supplant. 00:04:08.311 --> 00:04:10.311 It's the city calendar for the full agenda and information on how 00:04:12.749 --> 00:04:14.749 to participate in the hybrid meeting, and we will see you back here 00:04:17.554 --> 00:04:19.554 Monday night for counsel meeting on July 31st, and that concludes the 00:04:21.891 --> 00:04:23.891 city managers report. Thank you, Mr Ellington Nexus Cancer report Do 00:04:26.620 --> 00:04:28.620 We have considered reports please. Deputy 00:04:29.232 --> 00:04:31.232 Mayor Robertson, please. Thank 00:04:32.669 --> 00:04:34.669 you Last Wednesday was the regional Transit 00:04:36.106 --> 00:04:38.106 Committee monthly meeting and we met in person for 00:04:39.309 --> 00:04:41.309 the first time since I've been on 00:04:42.212 --> 00:04:44.212 that committee and we also met at the south 00:04:45.515 --> 00:04:47.515 base of metro transit in to Quilok that is the home 00:04:49.619 --> 00:04:51.619 of their battery testing facility, So it was an opportunity to see 00:04:53.256 --> 00:04:55.256 The work that they're doing, Um, the type of 00:04:56.960 --> 00:04:58.960 battery recharging stations that may come to shore line at 00:05:01.898 --> 00:05:03.898 some future date. We I tended with an A. Tasha, um 00:05:05.869 --> 00:05:07.869 And it was anyway, It was a great extent, educational experience. So, um more 00:05:10.173 --> 00:05:12.173 on that in the later date just also wanted to say that Metro 00:05:13.610 --> 00:05:15.610 was excited to announce that they have received 00:05:17.947 --> 00:05:19.947 33.5 half million dollars in federal funding. Let's going to help 00:05:21.584 --> 00:05:23.584 them purchase an additional 30 battery elected Beverly 00:05:24.554 --> 00:05:26.554 Battery. Our coaches 00:05:28.570 --> 00:05:30.570 to add to their fleet. Ultimately. The goal is 00:05:31.261 --> 00:05:33.261 to have about 14 50 total 00:05:33.963 --> 00:05:35.963 Um 1450. So. This is 00:05:38.268 --> 00:05:40.268 a good night's step forward with the 30 coming 00:05:45.740 --> 00:05:47.740 thanks to the federal brand. That's it. Thank you. Council member Mark 00:05:50.130 --> 00:05:52.130 Thank you. I attended the environment Energy 00:05:53.249 --> 00:05:55.249 Environment Natural Resources Committee of 00:05:56.186 --> 00:05:58.186 the natural recent that the N L C 00:05:59.550 --> 00:06:01.550 the National League of cities. Intercom, A 00:06:02.458 --> 00:06:04.458 and, um Learned about a variety of things. There 00:06:05.662 --> 00:06:07.662 is a UW professor who has been working 00:06:08.731 --> 00:06:10.731 on a program to help 00:06:11.434 --> 00:06:13.434 Entities prioritize there. See I P 00:06:14.804 --> 00:06:16.804 and get in line for green grants, which I green bonds. 00:06:19.209 --> 00:06:21.209 Which I thought was very interesting. Thank you. 00:06:23.146 --> 00:06:25.146 Thank you. Are there any other council reports? 00:06:26.816 --> 00:06:28.816 Councilor McConnell. Thank you 00:06:29.152 --> 00:06:31.152 Um I also intended 00:06:32.188 --> 00:06:34.188 nationally GTA Summer Conference and to coma 00:06:35.325 --> 00:06:37.325 and was involved in a 00:06:38.361 --> 00:06:40.361 tour against coma is little under a quarter of 00:06:41.164 --> 00:06:43.164 a million. Uh, population 00:06:43.766 --> 00:06:45.766 so they have a greater um 00:06:47.170 --> 00:06:49.170 Housing. Issue, but 00:06:49.606 --> 00:06:51.606 they had some Really 00:06:52.442 --> 00:06:54.442 great. Um Sites that we toured 00:06:55.578 --> 00:06:57.578 One was comprised of pallet housing, but 00:06:58.882 --> 00:07:00.882 it's not how Alice, it's. You know it's 00:07:02.151 --> 00:07:04.151 a little little shacks. I'm I don't have my notes with me. I 00:07:05.922 --> 00:07:07.922 was thinking sixties 70 square feet were not talking about 00:07:09.292 --> 00:07:11.292 big houses, but it's It's very You know it's 00:07:12.610 --> 00:07:14.610 It's protected the the other 00:07:14.430 --> 00:07:16.430 site was Oh, More 00:07:17.660 --> 00:07:19.660 temporary housing, but for 00:07:20.536 --> 00:07:22.536 families and women that were the church 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.240 The Church allowed the this 00:07:27.110 --> 00:07:29.110 This project to go on there site 00:07:30.280 --> 00:07:32.280 and also that they are working 00:07:33.283 --> 00:07:35.283 with the city to eventually have it. Uh Turn 00:07:37.200 --> 00:07:39.200 into more permanent housing for the same population 00:07:41.157 --> 00:07:43.157 and the third one was comprised of tents that were furnished 00:07:44.661 --> 00:07:46.661 by the authority, and, uh and those tents 00:07:48.164 --> 00:07:50.164 were actually enclosed in a bigger tent 00:07:50.967 --> 00:07:52.967 which provided some 00:07:53.836 --> 00:07:55.836 Temperature regulation from the heat and 00:07:56.940 --> 00:07:58.940 the cold so you could tell 00:07:59.709 --> 00:08:01.709 that every body had decorated 00:08:02.979 --> 00:08:04.979 there windows and things like that. So you know, it doesn't take much 00:08:07.830 --> 00:08:09.830 for some for people to feel that they have something that's there own 00:08:11.154 --> 00:08:13.154 and so it was nice to see that the coma Was trying to do 00:08:14.557 --> 00:08:16.557 something with the problems that we all the 00:08:18.361 --> 00:08:20.361 that all cities face. Thank you very much. 00:08:21.898 --> 00:08:23.898 Thank you. Right there concludes reports 00:08:25.468 --> 00:08:27.468 from the council memories. Next on the agenda is 00:08:29.238 --> 00:08:31.238 public comment. This is the portion of the meaning where members 00:08:33.676 --> 00:08:35.676 of the public may address the City Council on the general items. Or 00:08:38.114 --> 00:08:40.114 any other topic for three minutes or less. That depends on the number 00:08:42.318 --> 00:08:44.318 of people that have signed up. And this evening. We have five people signed 00:08:46.389 --> 00:08:48.389 up. Each will have three minutes. The clinic will call on in 00:08:50.460 --> 00:08:52.460 person speakers first, and we must beakers will be called on later. 00:08:54.130 --> 00:08:56.130 When it is your turn, please State, your name city 00:08:57.800 --> 00:08:59.800 of residence and any organ is a shin represented. Please be 00:09:01.237 --> 00:09:03.237 advised that testimony has being recorded. Miss me 00:09:05.208 --> 00:09:07.208 Please call the names of the individuals signed up 00:09:09.145 --> 00:09:11.145 Okay, so we have three in person speakers to see evening and you guys can 00:09:13.116 --> 00:09:15.116 line up at the podium. Bonnie Berry, Janelle Kimerling and 00:09:22.592 --> 00:09:24.592 Eva Berry. 00:09:25.461 --> 00:09:27.461 Hi I'm Bonnie Berry 00:09:28.640 --> 00:09:30.640 Cities shoreline and I'm here to 00:09:31.134 --> 00:09:33.134 talk about the reconfiguration of for 00:09:34.404 --> 00:09:36.404 lands Way publicly owned right of way, So. I'm only 00:09:37.807 --> 00:09:39.807 talking about what the city already owns. First 00:09:41.344 --> 00:09:43.344 of all I'd like to extend a extended big Thank you to 00:09:45.948 --> 00:09:47.948 all the council members who spoke up to get this on the agenda. 00:09:50.420 --> 00:09:52.420 And if any of you have read the information that I have provided over 00:09:54.991 --> 00:09:56.991 the last number of weeks, you know that this idea has been around for over 00:09:58.694 --> 00:10:00.694 a decade. And I feel that it's time has 00:10:02.650 --> 00:10:04.650 come, certainly makes cited to know that this will now be 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.200 given some serious attention with all the new housing you knits on 00:10:10.390 --> 00:10:12.390 a Ro ra. Residents will need to travel north to 00:10:13.843 --> 00:10:15.843 loop around heading south pbond onto a roar. A to access 00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:19.580 their parking This will dramatically increase the 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.840 volume of traffic on this already 00:10:23.953 --> 00:10:25.953 too busy residential street. The, middle and 00:10:27.590 --> 00:10:29.590 north sections of the street can provide a healthy green 00:10:31.861 --> 00:10:33.861 space for an area that has no park access. 00:10:34.664 --> 00:10:36.664 It can Be planted 00:10:37.266 --> 00:10:39.266 with shrubs and trees to provide 00:10:40.203 --> 00:10:42.203 additional protection for the McAleer 00:10:43.439 --> 00:10:45.439 water shed and offer healthy habitat for a while. Life 00:10:48.444 --> 00:10:50.444 while also reducing the volume of cut through traffic. 00:10:52.415 --> 00:10:54.415 Reconfiguring, the south leg of for her lands way would be a 00:10:55.952 --> 00:10:57.952 true place making change. It's a place too 00:10:59.489 --> 00:11:01.489 proudly display the history of the first Block 00:11:02.959 --> 00:11:04.959 of businesses that grew to become the city of shore line 00:11:07.630 --> 00:11:09.630 that we know today over 100 years later. It 00:11:10.990 --> 00:11:12.990 can become a lively place of small 00:11:12.935 --> 00:11:14.935 shops and restaurants. It can 00:11:15.972 --> 00:11:17.972 inform residents who know little about 00:11:19.175 --> 00:11:21.175 shorelines, origins and help them to feel anchored as 00:11:22.678 --> 00:11:24.678 they become knowing citizens. It can be a gathering place for 00:11:26.149 --> 00:11:28.149 any number of conversations 00:11:29.510 --> 00:11:31.510 and events. I look forward to hearing your discussion 00:11:32.155 --> 00:11:34.155 on these ideas and hope you will 00:11:35.424 --> 00:11:37.424 forward and and we'll move forward to realize the potential of 00:11:42.431 --> 00:11:44.431 this very special street. 00:11:46.335 --> 00:11:48.335 Jonelle is next. 00:11:49.272 --> 00:11:51.272 Junior All Kammerling resident 00:11:53.509 --> 00:11:55.509 of Shoreline. Hello again 00:11:56.479 --> 00:11:58.479 Council members. You're hearing a lot 00:11:59.382 --> 00:12:01.382 about saving trees these days. But here 00:12:02.251 --> 00:12:04.251 is a fact that a seldom 00:12:04.887 --> 00:12:06.887 mentioned trees cool not 00:12:07.323 --> 00:12:09.323 only by giving shade but 00:12:10.526 --> 00:12:12.526 through transpiration. Transpiration is 00:12:13.663 --> 00:12:15.663 the movement. And evaporation of water 00:12:16.666 --> 00:12:18.666 through the tree out from its stems and leaves 00:12:19.569 --> 00:12:21.569 and flowers. An area 00:12:22.471 --> 00:12:24.471 with trees can be 00:12:25.740 --> 00:12:27.740 55 to 15 degrees cooler. 00:12:28.811 --> 00:12:30.811 Then a similar area without them. 00:12:31.847 --> 00:12:33.847 It is this evaporation that 00:12:35.184 --> 00:12:37.184 cools us? Not just the shade. You 00:12:39.880 --> 00:12:41.880 all know what he we are going to be forced to endure 00:12:42.558 --> 00:12:44.558 in the future. One by one. We are losing 00:12:45.628 --> 00:12:47.628 our big trees. And are future is 00:12:48.464 --> 00:12:50.464 bleak without them. In 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.000 a separate email. I suggested 00:12:54.870 --> 00:12:56.870 possible additional usage is for the property at 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:00.700 18525 for lunch away north and you 00:13:00.943 --> 00:13:02.943 may also have other ideas. I want to 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.879 stress my belief that a pocket park on 00:13:08.251 --> 00:13:10.251 this property is the best possible use. You 00:13:11.254 --> 00:13:13.254 know the phrase reduce, reuse, recycle. 00:13:14.890 --> 00:13:16.890 Please reduce waste don't allow 00:13:17.893 --> 00:13:19.893 the building to be sold and the trees 00:13:21.964 --> 00:13:23.964 cut down to a comma date. Yet another big apartment building. 00:13:26.335 --> 00:13:28.335 Do re use it in a manner that will benefit 00:13:29.472 --> 00:13:31.472 it's neighbors. And continue 00:13:32.642 --> 00:13:34.642 the recycling benefits that the 00:13:35.645 --> 00:13:37.645 giant Sequoia and other nine Conifers have 00:13:39.215 --> 00:13:41.215 been providing for decades. I want 00:13:41.984 --> 00:13:43.984 to mention an article that was 00:13:44.687 --> 00:13:46.687 in yesterday? Seattle Times. It 00:13:48.324 --> 00:13:50.324 speaks to the benefit of gardens and the 00:13:51.494 --> 00:13:53.494 gardening specifically for people with dementia. 00:13:55.731 --> 00:13:57.731 This tiny therapeutic oasis. 00:13:58.768 --> 00:14:00.768 It's called Mods Garden. 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:03.570 It's located near the Fry Museum 00:14:04.106 --> 00:14:06.106 in Seattle. It's open to 00:14:06.609 --> 00:14:08.609 the public, whereas other 00:14:09.111 --> 00:14:11.111 similar gardens or private 00:14:12.810 --> 00:14:14.810 or for use by dedicated groups. 00:14:15.217 --> 00:14:17.217 Mods. Designer says Really 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.200 There is a need for more. 00:14:20.489 --> 00:14:22.489 And I hope we can start with the 00:14:24.994 --> 00:14:26.994 pocket park. Thank you. 00:14:35.438 --> 00:14:37.438 Eva Berry. 00:14:38.774 --> 00:14:40.774 Good evening. Um How. Are you 00:14:41.577 --> 00:14:43.577 guys doing? I would like to make a 00:14:44.980 --> 00:14:46.980 motion to create a new beach and short. 00:14:48.517 --> 00:14:50.517 The only other nude beaches in Madison Park and 00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:54.210 traffic is gone and pretty crazy lately, you know 00:14:55.591 --> 00:14:57.591 Taylor Swift and everything. Um, it takes me like an hour to get 00:14:59.795 --> 00:15:01.795 down there By the time I get down there. There aren't any sunny spots left? 00:15:03.699 --> 00:15:05.699 Um it's freeing is progressive is a great way to show that 00:15:06.669 --> 00:15:08.669 shoreline is hip. Cool 00:15:09.338 --> 00:15:11.338 stands for progressive movements. I 00:15:12.274 --> 00:15:14.274 made amazing friends at the Nude beach 00:15:15.578 --> 00:15:17.578 One time I met a woman named Dolphin, and she invited me to 00:15:19.315 --> 00:15:21.315 her house and her boyfriend gave me a free sound bath. Can you 00:15:22.785 --> 00:15:24.785 get that a regular regular beach. I. Think 00:15:26.689 --> 00:15:28.689 not, um, have an exposed to so many different types of bodies, which 00:15:30.893 --> 00:15:32.893 is made me more accepting and confident person. This, moreover 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:36.960 were flecked in our community 00:15:36.866 --> 00:15:38.866 consciousness also Being naked means you're 00:15:39.602 --> 00:15:41.602 more exposed to vitamin 00:15:43.305 --> 00:15:45.305 D both which could help a levy Eight depression and 00:15:46.642 --> 00:15:48.642 our community. Um Additionally 00:15:50.146 --> 00:15:52.146 is more affordable. The people in the city 00:15:53.482 --> 00:15:55.482 would save money on swimsuits. 00:15:57.186 --> 00:15:59.186 Um, being in our birthday shoes helps us feel more connected 00:16:00.556 --> 00:16:02.556 to nature and each other. Let's free the 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:05.759 city from textile and allow our bodies to connect with 00:16:06.962 --> 00:16:08.962 the Earth. Be one with the environment and 00:16:10.132 --> 00:16:12.132 embrace all sizes of different things. 00:16:13.202 --> 00:16:15.202 On our bodies it costs the taxpayer next to 00:16:17.306 --> 00:16:19.306 nothing will bring much more traffic to our area and 00:16:21.243 --> 00:16:23.243 further our catalyst to becoming the Fremont of the North. Let's show people 00:16:25.548 --> 00:16:27.548 that shorelines is with it. Let's make the south end of Richmond Beach or 00:16:29.318 --> 00:16:31.318 a goal like nude. Let's dare to be bare. Embrace Nature 00:16:32.521 --> 00:16:34.521 embraced progress free than Apple. 00:16:35.357 --> 00:16:37.357 Thank you. Okay 00:16:37.993 --> 00:16:39.993 now on to our online speakers 00:16:42.231 --> 00:16:44.231 Nancy Morris is next. 00:16:44.834 --> 00:16:46.834 Good evening. There 00:16:47.770 --> 00:16:49.770 are three important issues that 00:16:50.606 --> 00:16:52.606 community as the council to consider 00:16:53.609 --> 00:16:55.609 this evening. The first is on the 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.120 agenda item. Eight. A. Right away. This gush in of freelance 00:17:00.516 --> 00:17:02.516 Way north, sponsored by council members more 00:17:04.386 --> 00:17:06.386 and Roberts Bonnie Berry just summarize verbally and 00:17:07.556 --> 00:17:09.556 also provided an excellent visual 00:17:10.426 --> 00:17:12.426 Excuse me explanation regarding the for 00:17:14.129 --> 00:17:16.129 lands Way. Right away Configuration composed of three segments 00:17:17.733 --> 00:17:19.733 in north, middle and south segments, Please 00:17:21.871 --> 00:17:23.871 refer to Bonnie's email to council data. July 20 as posted 00:17:25.241 --> 00:17:27.241 in the public comments. Second as referred to 00:17:28.310 --> 00:17:30.310 by Janelle Kimerling and her verbal 00:17:31.614 --> 00:17:33.614 comment and emailed to counsel on July 12. There 00:17:35.117 --> 00:17:37.117 is a request or council to consider purchasing 00:17:38.754 --> 00:17:40.754 or acquiring it Grant for the 18525. 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:45.920 Furlongs away property as a public park. 00:17:46.462 --> 00:17:48.462 Excuse me a public pocket park, which would retain this 00:17:49.765 --> 00:17:51.765 a Koya and the nine surrounding tall 00:17:53.102 --> 00:17:55.102 trees, including eight Douglas fir trees and one western red cedar. 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.720 We have been in formed that the property leads to the bank of 00:18:00.543 --> 00:18:02.543 Um Erica. Expired last month. 00:18:03.450 --> 00:18:05.450 Third, the Tree preservation 00:18:05.981 --> 00:18:07.981 coating has submitted a proposed tree code 00:18:09.585 --> 00:18:11.585 amendment for counsel to consider. This code protects 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:15.880 the limited number of treason Charlotte line that are 00:18:16.525 --> 00:18:18.525 70 inches in diameter and greater. And would 00:18:19.595 --> 00:18:21.595 preserve the 72.8 inch diameter 00:18:22.998 --> 00:18:24.998 giant Sequoia, located at 00:18:25.634 --> 00:18:27.634 18525 for Lynn's Way. Former Bank 00:18:28.137 --> 00:18:30.137 of America. There are 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.440 numerous emails for residents supporting 00:18:34.643 --> 00:18:36.643 this consideration. So residents. Thank you 00:18:37.479 --> 00:18:39.479 for your discussion of 00:18:42.510 --> 00:18:44.510 these three topics. 00:18:45.554 --> 00:18:47.554 Thank you. The last 00:18:53.329 --> 00:18:55.329 speaker signed up this evening is Kathleen Russell. 00:18:56.999 --> 00:18:58.999 Kathleen Russell. Mhm Shoreline resident 00:19:01.770 --> 00:19:03.770 On behalf of the Tree Preservation code team. 00:19:05.407 --> 00:19:07.407 August will be a tough month for treason shoreline. The 00:19:08.877 --> 00:19:10.877 48 established trees at the former 00:19:12.848 --> 00:19:14.848 Garden Park Apartments North 1 78, the Linden Avenue 00:19:16.552 --> 00:19:18.552 will be removed. Including the 27 trees that line 00:19:20.122 --> 00:19:22.122 London Avenue along the East side, just north 00:19:23.926 --> 00:19:25.926 of north 1 75th to North 1 79th. 00:19:27.620 --> 00:19:29.620 In addition, 25 top public right of 00:19:30.499 --> 00:19:32.499 way Trees along 15th Avenue 00:19:33.302 --> 00:19:35.302 northeast between North, 1 00:19:35.738 --> 00:19:37.738 55th and North 1 75th. Are 00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:41.740 now noticed for three removal within 00:19:42.745 --> 00:19:44.745 two weeks. No tree replacements. The 00:19:46.649 --> 00:19:48.649 Same evening. I speak on behalf of the Tree Preservation Code team 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.200 and the many residents who have email council to save the 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.240 giant Sequoia at 18525 Berlin's way There is no tree code that 00:19:58.460 --> 00:20:00.460 will protect this tree. We ask you 00:20:01.230 --> 00:20:03.230 to consider the proposed tree code 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.000 protecting trees 70 inches in diameter and greater. 00:20:09.104 --> 00:20:11.104 This proposed code states. All trees in the city of 00:20:12.875 --> 00:20:14.875 shoreline 70 inches diameter at breast height and greater 00:20:16.779 --> 00:20:18.779 must be retained and may not be renewed removed. Unless determined 00:20:21.250 --> 00:20:23.250 as a hazardous tree by a certified are barest. There has 00:20:24.953 --> 00:20:26.953 erred is tree definition includes trees that are a threat to 00:20:28.824 --> 00:20:30.824 life or property. There are a lot limited number of trees 00:20:32.361 --> 00:20:34.361 70 inches in diameter and greater ensure line. I emailed 00:20:36.650 --> 00:20:38.650 council yesterday why this proposed tree code 00:20:39.101 --> 00:20:41.101 is of urgent concern. The giant Sequoia at 00:20:42.905 --> 00:20:44.905 18525 furlongs Way North does not have two 00:20:45.607 --> 00:20:47.607 years for a tree Code 00:20:49.812 --> 00:20:51.812 amendment process. At any time the owner could submit it. Terry 00:20:54.216 --> 00:20:56.216 removal at the cation. And if approved by city planning all of 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:00.200 the trees at 18525 Berlin Ways could be cut down. Once 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.759 The Tree permit is ish you There is no recourse to change the decision. 00:21:07.996 --> 00:21:09.996 We ask you to consider the preservation of this tree. Take 00:21:11.900 --> 00:21:13.900 the action. Barbara monks took in 1978 and protect 00:21:20.109 --> 00:21:22.109 this, Um, a zing Sequoia. Thank you. 00:21:22.878 --> 00:21:24.878 Thank you all and that concludes our 00:21:25.848 --> 00:21:27.848 public comment. Next item is approval of 00:21:30.953 --> 00:21:32.953 the consent calendar. Deputy Mayor 00:21:33.956 --> 00:21:35.956 Move approval of the consent calendar. 00:21:37.590 --> 00:21:39.590 Second Consent calendar has been moved 00:21:41.497 --> 00:21:43.497 in. Seconded that click. Please condemn the vote. 00:21:44.500 --> 00:21:46.500 Council member Obie. I 00:21:47.302 --> 00:21:49.302 Council member McConnell. I 00:21:50.205 --> 00:21:52.205 Council member Mark I Council 00:21:53.800 --> 00:21:55.800 member Roberts. Bye. Deputy 00:21:55.244 --> 00:21:57.244 Mayor Robertson. I 00:21:59.615 --> 00:22:01.615 Mayor Scali I Consent can in 00:22:02.684 --> 00:22:04.684 the past is uniting mostly Yeah, that's a good 00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:07.420 next item is steady. I 00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:10.190 didn't mention I'm Sorry Council 00:22:11.930 --> 00:22:13.930 member Ramsdale. I know he passes 00:22:14.296 --> 00:22:16.296 you know, Animus. Lee, seven. That's the era. Thank you. 00:22:17.399 --> 00:22:19.399 All right. Next item is a 00:22:20.569 --> 00:22:22.569 steady item and This Agenda item was sponsored 00:22:23.806 --> 00:22:25.806 by council members, Roberts and Constant in 00:22:26.975 --> 00:22:28.975 the morgue, and so The. Steady item 00:22:30.712 --> 00:22:32.712 on potential alternatives for the future development. On 00:22:34.249 --> 00:22:36.249 the sound that agonal of Berlin's way north and then 00:22:37.286 --> 00:22:39.286 we presented by, um Mr 00:22:41.623 --> 00:22:43.623 down and the junkie. Please. 00:22:45.727 --> 00:22:47.727 123 Good evening. Good evening that we're going to 00:22:48.597 --> 00:22:50.597 do that practice very well 00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:53.660 Remarks in stereo. 00:22:57.973 --> 00:22:59.973 More practice. You're 00:23:00.342 --> 00:23:02.342 the start, okay? So 00:23:02.978 --> 00:23:04.978 Yes this we're glad to 00:23:05.747 --> 00:23:07.747 be here with you this evening 00:23:09.151 --> 00:23:11.151 discussing for lands way. Um Sponsored 00:23:13.422 --> 00:23:15.422 by council member See Work and Roberts. 00:23:16.692 --> 00:23:18.692 So. We'll go through some of the Documents 00:23:20.162 --> 00:23:22.162 we have as adopted city policy that 00:23:22.931 --> 00:23:24.931 pertain to this part of the city 00:23:25.901 --> 00:23:27.901 Um and we'll discuss some of the 00:23:29.805 --> 00:23:31.805 questions, um, that we prepared to sort of guide your conversation 00:23:34.209 --> 00:23:36.209 and hopefully provide us with some guidance as to what You might like staff 00:23:38.547 --> 00:23:40.547 to do in terms of any potential next step ups. In 00:23:42.217 --> 00:23:44.217 this area. So 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:46.920 This is a part of the Town 00:23:48.900 --> 00:23:50.900 Center sub area, which 00:23:50.626 --> 00:23:52.626 is, um, a Absolutely matter of 00:23:54.663 --> 00:23:56.663 an adopted environmental impact 00:23:58.233 --> 00:24:00.233 statement and planned action. Conducted 00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:03.670 by the city. Uh and I dent if I it zoned 00:24:04.539 --> 00:24:06.539 this area as TC three and you 00:24:07.542 --> 00:24:09.542 can see the dimensions there, but 00:24:10.345 --> 00:24:12.345 generally speaking, that's a 70 ft. 00:24:12.948 --> 00:24:14.948 Height mixed use, Um And 00:24:15.984 --> 00:24:17.984 you know intended for 00:24:18.987 --> 00:24:20.987 Vibrant, um, consistent 00:24:21.957 --> 00:24:23.957 you know, use is consistent with a 00:24:28.497 --> 00:24:30.497 civic center and the civic heart of the city. 00:24:32.367 --> 00:24:34.367 And. We won't belabor or kind of read all this 00:24:35.837 --> 00:24:37.837 text but just to show that that's a Barea 00:24:39.374 --> 00:24:41.374 planned action. Really? I saw that particular 00:24:42.744 --> 00:24:44.744 stretch of for Lynn's way. That's diagonal at the South and 00:24:46.415 --> 00:24:48.415 As a rule the unique place in the city. Having a lot 00:24:49.985 --> 00:24:51.985 of historical as well as 00:24:53.522 --> 00:24:55.522 plates, making relevance to the city overall 00:24:56.959 --> 00:24:58.959 as as really a key Place in in the heart of 00:25:00.128 --> 00:25:02.128 city and seeing as an opportunity to 00:25:03.465 --> 00:25:05.465 Encourage of vibrant, walkable 00:25:06.601 --> 00:25:08.601 environment. Um And, really recognizing it as a 00:25:10.605 --> 00:25:12.605 place that's distinct and different from other 00:25:14.443 --> 00:25:16.443 more automobile oriented parts of the city. 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:20.800 The 2017 to 2023 parks, Recreation 00:25:20.549 --> 00:25:22.549 and open space plan. 00:25:23.118 --> 00:25:25.118 Also looked at this part of the 00:25:26.455 --> 00:25:28.455 city and a couple of different ways. Um 00:25:29.858 --> 00:25:31.858 The park at town center is really the main event in 00:25:33.595 --> 00:25:35.595 the pros plan in terms of open space, and we can all 00:25:37.699 --> 00:25:39.699 see that here from City Hall. Um Obviously a significant 00:25:41.336 --> 00:25:43.336 green space right in the center of town center. Um 00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:46.740 But for lands way with also identified as 00:25:47.876 --> 00:25:49.876 a green kind of corridor 00:25:51.113 --> 00:25:53.113 potential opportunity. It's seen as a 00:25:54.182 --> 00:25:56.182 way in terms of the Initiative seven of ensuring 00:25:57.786 --> 00:25:59.786 adequate Parkland. Which recognized the 00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:03.230 challenge of acquiring land through fees. Simple 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.359 property purchase. Especially Since 00:26:07.329 --> 00:26:09.329 We didn't have a park impact fee in place at 00:26:10.899 --> 00:26:12.899 that time. It was really unknown. How much money we might have for 00:26:14.936 --> 00:26:16.936 a choir in Parkland and so This was seen as an example of maybe places in 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.640 the city that Rights of way could be could be 00:26:21.209 --> 00:26:23.209 greened up or, you 00:26:24.579 --> 00:26:26.579 know, increasing increase the 00:26:27.649 --> 00:26:29.649 green space in the city. Through redesign and redevelopment. 00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:33.520 And then it also was specifically included in 00:26:35.590 --> 00:26:37.590 one of as one of 178 projects that didn't make it 00:26:38.994 --> 00:26:40.994 into the plan in terms of prioritized recommended 00:26:43.310 --> 00:26:45.310 you know projects that's not in that first. You know, Item 00:26:46.935 --> 00:26:48.935 one, the General capital projects that were at the time. 00:26:50.572 --> 00:26:52.572 Um estimated around $10 million. It's 00:26:53.809 --> 00:26:55.809 not in. Um, those lists of projects 00:26:56.545 --> 00:26:58.545 that are identified, but it is among 00:26:59.648 --> 00:27:01.648 those other great ideas that pros plan 00:27:04.190 --> 00:27:06.190 wanted to continue to be a vessel for and capture. 00:27:09.224 --> 00:27:11.224 Um, but there weren't advanced at that time. 00:27:12.194 --> 00:27:14.194 And I will turn it over to 00:27:15.464 --> 00:27:17.464 City of shoreline, Public Works director Tricia 00:27:18.767 --> 00:27:20.767 junkie that talk through the 00:27:21.636 --> 00:27:23.636 Design implications. Thank you. 00:27:24.172 --> 00:27:26.172 And as well as I do 00:27:27.142 --> 00:27:29.142 identified the town center Siberia plan 00:27:30.479 --> 00:27:32.479 did consider and look at the redevelopment 00:27:33.615 --> 00:27:35.615 of for Lynn's way. The Siberia plan did specifically 00:27:36.985 --> 00:27:38.985 call out the cross section that shown here up on the 00:27:41.656 --> 00:27:43.656 upper left that has to travel lanes one in each direction. Angled 00:27:45.260 --> 00:27:47.260 parking on both sides. Amenities owns and then why'd 00:27:48.396 --> 00:27:50.396 10 Ft sidewalks adjacent to Again 00:27:51.199 --> 00:27:53.199 These redeveloped Buildings that is 00:27:54.236 --> 00:27:56.236 the cross section because that is in that was in the 00:27:57.372 --> 00:27:59.372 sub area plan that is now contained in 00:28:00.442 --> 00:28:02.442 the street matrix of the Engineering Development 00:28:03.712 --> 00:28:05.712 manual that provides the guidance for staff. 00:28:07.315 --> 00:28:09.315 Uh, as developments come in. But as developments come in 00:28:10.785 --> 00:28:12.785 We again. We use that street made trips 00:28:13.955 --> 00:28:15.955 as guidance on that picture there on the 00:28:17.125 --> 00:28:19.125 lower right. It shows just a rendering Not 00:28:21.620 --> 00:28:23.620 really even a rendering but gives some concept of how as development 00:28:24.933 --> 00:28:26.933 comes in staff can execute flexibility in working with 00:28:28.336 --> 00:28:30.336 To developer to increase green 00:28:31.706 --> 00:28:33.706 areas, reducing parking, depending on what the needs are 00:28:35.110 --> 00:28:37.110 of the redevelopment meander 00:28:38.213 --> 00:28:40.213 the sidewalk around existing trees utilized 00:28:41.416 --> 00:28:43.416 green spaces for low impact 00:28:44.619 --> 00:28:46.619 development. Uh, situations like that, as development 00:28:48.590 --> 00:28:50.590 comes across, that is the tool we currently have. 00:28:52.600 --> 00:28:54.600 For building out this street. It is 00:28:54.996 --> 00:28:56.996 not a It is not identified 00:28:57.966 --> 00:28:59.966 for improvements in the 00:29:00.902 --> 00:29:02.902 transportation improvement plan or the capital in 00:29:04.239 --> 00:29:06.239 prove mint plan. So the current plan 00:29:06.942 --> 00:29:08.942 would be for redevelopment to 00:29:10.312 --> 00:29:12.312 occur with development of the adjacent properties, which 00:29:14.149 --> 00:29:16.149 are required to do frontage improvements on there, Half street. Now that 00:29:18.386 --> 00:29:20.386 has been a lot of discussion and feedback about what else could this 00:29:22.791 --> 00:29:24.791 street B and could it be more of a woo nerve shared street type 00:29:26.194 --> 00:29:28.194 of item? So I provided here a couple of 00:29:29.464 --> 00:29:31.464 images of owners, both of these coming from 00:29:32.834 --> 00:29:34.834 Belle Street in Seattle objectives of Wu nerves 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.400 are that they create a space that shared by 00:29:39.674 --> 00:29:41.674 bikes, peds and cars. You typically have a very defined transition 00:29:43.445 --> 00:29:45.445 between winners and the standard streets or 00:29:47.682 --> 00:29:49.682 in standard Street. You incorporate traffic calming measures and you ensure 00:29:52.530 --> 00:29:54.530 that the street is 88 compliant, providing a little bit more detail 00:29:56.191 --> 00:29:58.191 on that some of the design features you often see on a 00:30:00.262 --> 00:30:02.262 shared street include clear entrances in exits. The you till isa variety 00:30:04.833 --> 00:30:06.833 of surface treatments so that rather than your standard asphalt street, you 00:30:08.737 --> 00:30:10.737 may see concrete you may see mixed pavers you may see 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.400 different textures, colors of concrete 00:30:14.542 --> 00:30:16.542 or or papers to 00:30:17.912 --> 00:30:19.912 distinguish that you've still find designated spaces 00:30:21.683 --> 00:30:23.683 for parking and pedestrians. It typically is curb list so you 00:30:25.687 --> 00:30:27.687 typically don't have that curb barrier. Instead, you would see 00:30:29.691 --> 00:30:31.691 ballers planters, sitting areas things like that to help distinguish 00:30:33.595 --> 00:30:35.595 those separate spaces again. A couple of examples there on 00:30:37.565 --> 00:30:39.565 the images kind of showing how those are incorporated again that 00:30:41.403 --> 00:30:43.403 lower right one is a rendering from Seattle's Bell Street. 00:30:44.873 --> 00:30:46.873 Where they have since then implemented and built 00:30:48.443 --> 00:30:50.443 this type of the shared street where you can see those differences 00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:54.180 in pavement colors, textures areas for 00:30:55.617 --> 00:30:57.617 peds, landscaping bikes. Uh, those sorts of elements that make 00:31:00.455 --> 00:31:02.455 up this sort of shared street. 00:31:03.158 --> 00:31:05.158 And then, as I mentioned 00:31:06.270 --> 00:31:08.270 there's really ways for the right of 00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:11.230 way to get developed. First being developer built 00:31:13.301 --> 00:31:15.301 where city establishes the visions guidelines and standards and 00:31:17.972 --> 00:31:19.972 then design and construction occurs with redevelopment of the properties. 00:31:22.210 --> 00:31:24.210 The ultra other alternative is as a capital project where it would be included 00:31:28.850 --> 00:31:30.850 first in the Transportation Improvement plan, and then eventually prioritized 00:31:33.321 --> 00:31:35.321 for funding. Again. These are the same questions that we're listed in your 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:39.759 staff report that are just tended to guide your conversation. Certainly. 00:31:42.430 --> 00:31:44.430 This is your conversation tonight? We are here to listen to what your ideas 00:31:46.835 --> 00:31:48.835 and take direction from you. As far as what you want from Next steps are 00:31:51.406 --> 00:31:53.406 you certainly have heard through public comment about how we could use the 00:31:55.944 --> 00:31:57.944 right of way. And is there something different? You would like in the right 00:32:00.482 --> 00:32:02.482 of way across section Um Are. You okay with allowing redevelopment to rebuild 00:32:04.919 --> 00:32:06.919 the street versus a capital improvement project is their interest in council 00:32:09.391 --> 00:32:11.391 exploring acquisition of property. Um and discount cell want to prioritize 00:32:14.195 --> 00:32:16.195 and direct staff to move forward with study or analysis. What you do not 00:32:18.833 --> 00:32:20.833 see on this list is the discussion about trees. And they saving of the Sequoia 00:32:23.371 --> 00:32:25.371 tree on the Bank of America parcel that was not initially in our understanding 00:32:27.876 --> 00:32:29.876 of topics for this conversation. If. That is something that council wants 00:32:32.247 --> 00:32:34.247 to proceed with, and that would be a question that would be more a procreate 00:32:36.684 --> 00:32:38.684 for planning and community development. Not so much Nathan or my self will 00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:42.789 be happy to answer the questions that you have related to it. But it would 00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:47.360 need to come back for separate action. Well. Thank you council members is 00:32:49.731 --> 00:32:51.731 a star study. Items so it's hoping for questions. 00:32:53.735 --> 00:32:55.735 Because remember Walker. 00:32:56.700 --> 00:32:58.700 Thank you. The 00:32:59.307 --> 00:33:01.307 Idea that a council member Roberts and I 00:33:02.243 --> 00:33:04.243 had when we were putting this we asked 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.480 to put this on the agenda was to have 00:33:08.850 --> 00:33:10.850 a brainstorming session to really understand. 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.720 What citizens in Shoreline would like to have 00:33:16.191 --> 00:33:18.191 I. To me, It seems like such a place 00:33:18.927 --> 00:33:20.927 making opportunity that was 00:33:21.696 --> 00:33:23.696 originally suggested by Miss 00:33:24.699 --> 00:33:26.699 Barry for this street. Is, the 00:33:27.936 --> 00:33:29.936 90 FT on, uh Dimension unusual 00:33:30.572 --> 00:33:32.572 in shoreline. It is a fairly wide 00:33:33.741 --> 00:33:35.741 right away. Standard is usually 60 ft. So 00:33:36.911 --> 00:33:38.911 This is significantly more than normal 00:33:41.282 --> 00:33:43.282 and certainly farther north, more than what we would need for just a roadway. 00:33:45.687 --> 00:33:47.687 So it seemed like it had options that may not 00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:50.990 be ordinarily available is in that it was city owned. 00:33:52.760 --> 00:33:54.760 And I do just would like to thank you body for putting 00:33:57.432 --> 00:33:59.432 this on the agenda and let's talk about place making and what we would like 00:34:01.503 --> 00:34:03.503 it to be. Thank you? Thank you Mia's going 00:34:05.306 --> 00:34:07.306 Thank you? So first is the question. How will serve Does this 00:34:10.845 --> 00:34:12.845 neighborhood by existing parks. 00:34:13.948 --> 00:34:15.948 I'm looking at council members are rents Elgin's 00:34:17.185 --> 00:34:19.185 little unfair. You're asking us this question 00:34:20.655 --> 00:34:22.655 Um, but I know looking at him to so fair enough. I know 00:34:24.359 --> 00:34:26.359 that he has a great job of keeping that kind of the sort 00:34:28.229 --> 00:34:30.229 of metrics around that front and center for all of us. I do 00:34:32.330 --> 00:34:34.330 know that we have been successful and securing 00:34:34.802 --> 00:34:36.802 grant funding for For 00:34:37.272 --> 00:34:39.272 for Park property and not 00:34:39.774 --> 00:34:41.774 far from that location and 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.440 a big part of that was the sort of 00:34:46.214 --> 00:34:48.214 deficiency in terms of the The acres per 1000. So. I think 00:34:49.384 --> 00:34:51.384 I believe that that is 00:34:52.153 --> 00:34:54.153 a, uh I think that's an underserved area 00:34:55.823 --> 00:34:57.823 of the city. Um, and as we talked about in 00:34:59.327 --> 00:35:01.327 the staff report, there's quite a bit of growth. So that sort of acres 00:35:02.997 --> 00:35:04.997 per 1000, you know, goes down as the thousands 00:35:07.735 --> 00:35:09.735 go up so I can give you a more complete answer. 00:35:11.205 --> 00:35:13.205 If, but hopefully that's enough to go on or 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.760 or someone helpful. I think it is in one of the areas we consider to 00:35:19.981 --> 00:35:21.981 be underserved and Council Councilor Ramsdale nodding. So that means I think 00:35:24.452 --> 00:35:26.452 it didn't okay, job. Hopefully Thank you both. So when I first started 00:35:29.123 --> 00:35:31.123 on council seven plus years ago, I met with Mr Theory who come in tonight 00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:35.610 and she lives at the north West End of that street, and we did a 00:35:37.198 --> 00:35:39.198 walk around and she showed me all the stuff and she described her vision 00:35:41.736 --> 00:35:43.736 and how many times should try to get it before council. And so I tried when 00:35:45.907 --> 00:35:47.907 I first started, and it really didn't go anywhere because the project hadn't 00:35:50.278 --> 00:35:52.278 scored super well in the pros a plan It turns out that there's obviously 00:35:54.649 --> 00:35:56.649 a variety of factors behind that, but part of it is that it didn't fit squarely 00:35:59.554 --> 00:36:01.554 into either a countable improvement projects were parts project and so it 00:36:04.250 --> 00:36:06.250 just didn't I think it was sort of a square peg in a round hole kind of 00:36:08.329 --> 00:36:10.329 thing? I think this project could be super important for place making? I 00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:14.600 was. I didn't know the answer to the question. I asked. I'm pleased to hear 00:36:17.105 --> 00:36:19.105 it because I wouldn't hesitate to put even a really cool part like thing 00:36:21.609 --> 00:36:23.609 in an area that was already well served. But if there is a need for public 00:36:26.147 --> 00:36:28.147 open space here, and they seems like a great way to get it in the comments, 00:36:30.652 --> 00:36:32.652 I hear the criticism my most here about shoreline from people who don't 00:36:35.356 --> 00:36:37.356 live here is that there is no there there that we've got neighborhoods we've 00:36:39.694 --> 00:36:41.694 got great little community center just but we don't really have a downtown. 00:36:44.165 --> 00:36:46.165 And, So the extent we can do place making where people want to come here 00:36:48.636 --> 00:36:50.636 and where people refreshed and rejuvenated rather than just checked off 00:36:53.174 --> 00:36:55.174 task on the list. That's fantastic. So I would encourage us to give you 00:36:57.445 --> 00:36:59.445 two. Explore this. I would like details on the park equity issue because 00:37:02.583 --> 00:37:04.583 counseling program still has been a good job of keeping under the floor 00:37:06.821 --> 00:37:08.821 and should be before Um, I am concerned a bent about sort of mission creep. 00:37:11.590 --> 00:37:13.590 Um, because when this project this one I am girls in this project, it was 00:37:15.663 --> 00:37:17.663 basically a captain Improvement project. It was a reinvention of the street. 00:37:20.401 --> 00:37:22.401 It was differences in how we put Pedestrian flow and whether it went through 00:37:24.906 --> 00:37:26.906 and all the rest and all of a sudden we're talking about a new Parkland 00:37:29.477 --> 00:37:31.477 and we're talking about specific trees, and I don't you know we have a whole 00:37:33.981 --> 00:37:35.981 city so govern and we have a lot of projects to a complicit sh I would hate 00:37:38.453 --> 00:37:40.453 to see a really cool idea sort of pump stuff off the list that have been 00:37:43.570 --> 00:37:45.570 there for a while. While so I am supportive of this 100 per cent. I am cautious 00:37:47.462 --> 00:37:49.462 about the level of resources we submit to it, and I would suggest that we 00:37:51.666 --> 00:37:53.666 asked staff to come up with them alternate plans. So which costs money, 00:37:56.671 --> 00:37:58.671 some of which may be or just, you know, street design changes. Thank you, 00:38:01.209 --> 00:38:03.209 castle. Thank you, ma'am Deputy Mayor Robertson, please. Thank you council 00:38:05.780 --> 00:38:07.780 member pony, So. I think I'll dig a little deeper into some of what The 00:38:10.218 --> 00:38:12.218 merit had just shared, Um The first Let me start with a question we were 00:38:14.689 --> 00:38:16.689 shown to visuals. One is a cross section of for lands Way and another one 00:38:18.860 --> 00:38:20.860 was an aerial. So. I guess it is that are we looking at the same vision 00:38:23.197 --> 00:38:25.197 just from to different perspectives. Correct One is the cross section One 00:38:27.869 --> 00:38:29.869 is the plan view of what that cross section could be, Uh, in a in a designed 00:38:32.240 --> 00:38:34.240 Uh, Thank you. Um, that that could how that that is. How that cross section 00:38:36.677 --> 00:38:38.677 could play out. Um, in Plan view where we can reduce parking Add green space. Take 00:38:41.315 --> 00:38:43.315 some creative elements in that design as development comes in. Thank you. 00:38:46.154 --> 00:38:48.154 It's good to know because the to definitely have a very different feel to 00:38:50.691 --> 00:38:52.691 them and The aerial version is a little more hopeful. As I look at, you know 00:38:54.962 --> 00:38:56.962 the prosection, I would say, I'm definitely interested 00:38:58.666 --> 00:39:00.666 and revisiting that design. Um Or. Yeah 00:39:02.603 --> 00:39:04.603 So so I'll put that there because that was one of the questions that was 00:39:07.141 --> 00:39:09.141 put out there for Capital Council to consider, Um, digging into what the 00:39:11.512 --> 00:39:13.512 mayor was saying. You know I had some time on the park's board, and 00:39:15.249 --> 00:39:17.249 I remember this project being coming to us and I think 00:39:19.530 --> 00:39:21.530 it also went back to the parks board and more serious 00:39:23.324 --> 00:39:25.324 way? Maybe right after I left left, and I joined council. And I. Remember then 00:39:27.528 --> 00:39:29.528 and hearing you know, after that the parks board at 00:39:30.631 --> 00:39:32.631 the time was they were kind of confused 00:39:34.402 --> 00:39:36.402 Um, the mayor, said. Square peg in a round hole. They were kind of 00:39:38.339 --> 00:39:40.339 confused. We appoint these folks to these boards and commissions with a 00:39:42.577 --> 00:39:44.577 very, very narrow scope, and this was not Parkland. It was not 00:39:46.647 --> 00:39:48.647 a park was not going to be a playground. It was not going to be walking 00:39:51.419 --> 00:39:53.419 You know a trail or walking space. And so it didn't sound like it was something 00:39:55.890 --> 00:39:57.890 that should be on their plate. They thought it should be something that 00:40:00.361 --> 00:40:02.361 lived in with the streets. Public Works department. So that's what I think 00:40:04.932 --> 00:40:06.932 I can example of how this project has bounced around. For a decade and not really 00:40:09.270 --> 00:40:11.270 landed right and council previously didn't have the will, or just, you 00:40:13.341 --> 00:40:15.341 know, interest in pushing it forward. So here we are today and I 00:40:17.612 --> 00:40:19.612 got so also wanna articulate the or just my thoughts about the 00:40:21.315 --> 00:40:23.315 178 other ideas and I think putting that number 00:40:24.986 --> 00:40:26.986 out there kind of does this project a disservice? There 00:40:28.556 --> 00:40:30.556 are not other 178 other Really 00:40:31.525 --> 00:40:33.525 good ideas that have been researched. 00:40:34.362 --> 00:40:36.362 Um, I thoughtfully presented and and 00:40:37.365 --> 00:40:39.365 put together and have 00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:42.340 community will and energy behind 00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:45.170 them, so to say, it's just one of 100 and 78. I think 00:40:46.841 --> 00:40:48.841 it does a disservice. I think this is a very 00:40:50.211 --> 00:40:52.211 good idea that I would like to see us look at in a 00:40:53.681 --> 00:40:55.681 serious way for potential capital investment. 00:40:57.151 --> 00:40:59.151 And It'll come back to the word that we 00:41:00.855 --> 00:41:02.855 keep hearing and I have determined for myself that it's something 00:41:05.526 --> 00:41:07.526 that you're going to keep hearing from me and meetings and meetings ahead. Is 00:41:09.730 --> 00:41:11.730 this idea of place making and shoreline. And turning. Maybe. Some of 00:41:13.834 --> 00:41:15.834 our focus as a council and as a city to 00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:19.710 very intentionally seeking out ideas and projects 00:41:20.942 --> 00:41:22.942 that are going to What put a stamp in 00:41:24.512 --> 00:41:26.512 our community and make it 00:41:27.949 --> 00:41:29.949 not just function even more desirable than it is now. I think 00:41:32.190 --> 00:41:34.190 it all but highly livable, And this is an example of one of those 00:41:36.924 --> 00:41:38.924 projects. So, um, those are my thoughts for now, I may have more later. 00:41:42.596 --> 00:41:44.596 But I'll turn it back to you. Council Member Pope. Thank you. Thank you, 00:41:46.767 --> 00:41:48.767 Deputy Mayor Council member office, please. Thank you, councilor probie. 00:41:50.705 --> 00:41:52.705 Uh, I want to strongly active with the deputy near just said that 00:41:55.109 --> 00:41:57.109 Place making should when we think about this project specifically 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.800 Um It is about place making it is firmly about 00:42:03.317 --> 00:42:05.317 face making. And I think it's been identified in the The 00:42:06.854 --> 00:42:08.854 the current pros plan and our capital of our 00:42:09.790 --> 00:42:11.790 summary of man as a place 00:42:12.593 --> 00:42:14.593 making opportunity, and that's partially why 00:42:16.970 --> 00:42:18.970 I think that it has sort kind of bounced around the Tween 00:42:19.700 --> 00:42:21.700 The parks and public works and not really 00:42:22.770 --> 00:42:24.770 I have directed. I mean the attention from the 00:42:26.107 --> 00:42:28.107 council that deserves because it's 00:42:29.310 --> 00:42:31.310 Not really? As everyone has said it's not really 00:42:32.413 --> 00:42:34.413 Parks. It's not really public works. Its 00:42:35.983 --> 00:42:37.983 really about what the space is What. This space 00:42:39.120 --> 00:42:41.120 means for the city and what 00:42:41.889 --> 00:42:43.889 What. How big of vision Do we want 00:42:44.458 --> 00:42:46.458 for the space. 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:49.940 As um What I haven't heard in 00:42:50.164 --> 00:42:52.164 this gush in so far is that This 00:42:53.100 --> 00:42:55.100 Road is unique in many ways, I mean it's 00:42:56.604 --> 00:42:58.604 done only historically unique, but also underneath 00:43:00.174 --> 00:43:02.174 the surface. Well. There's a lot lot of stick things about this 00:43:04.345 --> 00:43:06.345 rogue, but first him fundamentally under neath this, uh 00:43:07.415 --> 00:43:09.415 The current asphalt in is 00:43:10.618 --> 00:43:12.618 our bricks. Um, the one 00:43:13.654 --> 00:43:15.654 of the original roads of the city, and we 00:43:17.580 --> 00:43:19.580 have a person of the bricks that are exposed in town center 00:43:20.327 --> 00:43:22.327 park. But. We have not Christianity too 00:43:23.330 --> 00:43:25.330 really highlights and sort of bring those 00:43:26.700 --> 00:43:28.700 bricks forward and sort of be a centerpiece for 00:43:29.904 --> 00:43:31.904 the city. If you go sort of just to the west 00:43:33.574 --> 00:43:35.574 of the Syrian cereal photo is destroying two star ical music. 00:43:37.278 --> 00:43:39.278 And. We know the good work that they have heard recently from 00:43:40.748 --> 00:43:42.748 the historical museum. But all the work they are 00:43:45.286 --> 00:43:47.286 doing and bring back and made a burden and things like that. That 00:43:48.956 --> 00:43:50.956 Um, we have We were asked by the shore like 00:43:52.293 --> 00:43:54.293 Arts Council to look and find space 00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:57.429 for some sort of studio are some 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.599 sort of community space for artists. 00:44:02.103 --> 00:44:04.103 This, I. Think by with with 00:44:04.939 --> 00:44:06.939 having the Circle Museum and 00:44:08.209 --> 00:44:10.209 this and potentially a place 00:44:10.878 --> 00:44:12.878 for artists, and this can be a real 00:44:13.681 --> 00:44:15.681 in the bricks. This can be a really 00:44:16.884 --> 00:44:18.884 really awesome space and really you Nique 00:44:20.354 --> 00:44:22.354 space for shoreline. I think I think that we can do. There's a lot 00:44:24.258 --> 00:44:26.258 lot here that we can use that we don't have. That we can just 00:44:27.628 --> 00:44:29.628 make this and wonderful, wonderful space 00:44:30.631 --> 00:44:32.631 for to attract people to the city. 00:44:33.767 --> 00:44:35.767 Um, ARJ history 00:44:36.904 --> 00:44:38.904 get some more restaurants in there and you 00:44:40.207 --> 00:44:42.207 have a place where people want to walk to The other 00:44:43.811 --> 00:44:45.811 sort of you, Nick thing about for lands, and especially this 00:44:48.215 --> 00:44:50.215 spotted for Lynn's talking a little bit more about the other part 00:44:52.520 --> 00:44:54.520 pieces of fur. Lin's leader, Um, but There's only 00:44:55.589 --> 00:44:57.589 really, It's not truly O Way street. I mean 00:44:59.160 --> 00:45:01.160 it is sort of, you know, on this in the SPLA, but the only way 00:45:03.497 --> 00:45:05.497 to really access this road is turning I 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.360 mean turning onto it for 00:45:11.872 --> 00:45:13.872 Period Sonia sort of this because I one week 00:45:14.842 --> 00:45:16.842 and then we missed a portion of way 00:45:18.245 --> 00:45:20.245 just said You're last statement. If you can't repeat. Thank you. Oh 00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:24.160 I was trying to say sorry about that, Um I was 00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:27.219 saying that apartment There's a Lot 00:45:28.155 --> 00:45:30.155 LTD. Access to the street. 00:45:31.225 --> 00:45:33.225 Um, which is unlike other streets, and I stink 00:45:34.128 --> 00:45:36.128 that there's the opportunity 00:45:36.797 --> 00:45:38.797 to actually just sort of of A race 00:45:39.700 --> 00:45:41.700 All this this process section erase 00:45:42.436 --> 00:45:44.436 this design and really make it even 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.400 go even going beyond the winner for making it sort of a protest 00:45:49.577 --> 00:45:51.577 Rian only place again if you have the Art museum 00:45:52.846 --> 00:45:54.846 You have the hardest faced You 00:45:56.160 --> 00:45:58.160 can make it so that people can just walk 00:45:59.587 --> 00:46:01.587 and concrete and each of them imagine 00:46:02.723 --> 00:46:04.723 the possibilities and imagine the wonder of of all 00:46:06.600 --> 00:46:08.600 of that happening on this stretch. 00:46:08.963 --> 00:46:10.963 And then I think many of the other thing 00:46:12.566 --> 00:46:14.566 about Faurlin's especially if you go further north 00:46:16.203 --> 00:46:18.203 is that this is the headwaters of I want to say Macular 00:46:22.142 --> 00:46:24.142 Creek, but I know it's not right. Um 00:46:24.945 --> 00:46:26.945 I'm just pointing it out right now. 00:46:28.282 --> 00:46:30.282 Yeah, it's a head wires and neck. Yes, they had water 00:46:31.619 --> 00:46:33.619 have actually increased. And so that 00:46:35.389 --> 00:46:37.389 there is we have been opportunity by sort of incorporated in space 00:46:39.426 --> 00:46:41.426 further up on this block to really make sure the headwaters are protected 00:46:43.597 --> 00:46:45.597 back loaded pre car protected Um, I'm. Finally in what I'll say is I 00:46:47.167 --> 00:46:49.167 do support. Movements to preserve trees greater 00:46:50.671 --> 00:46:52.671 than 70 inches. I know that's not part of this 00:46:53.907 --> 00:46:55.907 discussion by like to see that proposal. Move forward 00:46:58.120 --> 00:47:00.120 Thank you, Council member of Kobe. Thank you. Customer McConnell 00:47:01.548 --> 00:47:03.548 please. Thank you, um, Council member of Po B. I 00:47:05.190 --> 00:47:07.190 have actually several questions for 00:47:07.821 --> 00:47:09.821 Staff to get back to us. Maybe if I'm 00:47:11.659 --> 00:47:13.659 the only one in interested Then. Then maybe 00:47:14.695 --> 00:47:16.695 you don't need to do it. But when is part 00:47:17.931 --> 00:47:19.931 of the my reading? Um 00:47:20.868 --> 00:47:22.868 And And, the community talking about 00:47:23.637 --> 00:47:25.637 how many trees there are around 00:47:26.473 --> 00:47:28.473 that area. Uh, it's not up for 00:47:30.244 --> 00:47:32.244 discussion now. But that property with many of those trees is 00:47:34.315 --> 00:47:36.315 at the B of a property. Bank of America. 00:47:37.418 --> 00:47:39.418 Yeah. Okay. Thank you So is there 00:47:40.821 --> 00:47:42.821 a possibility with us looking 00:47:43.524 --> 00:47:45.524 at Grant? Um, writing for 00:47:46.327 --> 00:47:48.327 that property to be Park like open 00:47:49.897 --> 00:47:51.897 space light because I could see a lot of potential 00:47:53.330 --> 00:47:55.330 after the building's gone, uh, for it to be 00:47:56.870 --> 00:47:58.870 part of this vision that the community is 00:48:00.341 --> 00:48:02.341 actually expressed to us, whether we can make it happen 00:48:03.677 --> 00:48:05.677 or not, You know it's been 10 years and 00:48:07.181 --> 00:48:09.181 then some that were still talking about it, but sometimes good things take 00:48:11.118 --> 00:48:13.118 a while there. You know to happen because we want We want to 00:48:15.422 --> 00:48:17.422 be thoughtful about it. So? I have that question about the B of a property. 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.760 Is that something that is Grant. Possibility, because you guys are the ones that 00:48:24.164 --> 00:48:26.164 really know whether we can get 50%. Grant funding or 00:48:27.568 --> 00:48:29.568 whatever, depending on the property itself 00:48:30.738 --> 00:48:32.738 and etcetera, and so with that same question I have 00:48:34.700 --> 00:48:36.700 with the, uh Basket and Robin property, which 00:48:37.770 --> 00:48:39.770 I don't you probably know who owns it, because 00:48:40.514 --> 00:48:42.514 right now it's just an empty building. We just have a 00:48:44.218 --> 00:48:46.218 lot of emptiness in that area, which seems like 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:50.880 a great opportunity to do some research because we have as 00:48:51.592 --> 00:48:53.592 a council on occasion. But things for open spaces 00:48:54.828 --> 00:48:56.828 that are zoned in your 00:48:57.965 --> 00:48:59.965 70. So. Sometimes it we have to pay a little bit 00:49:01.969 --> 00:49:03.969 more for the opportunities, but the zoning is already in place, and that's 00:49:05.973 --> 00:49:07.973 what we have to work with. And. The. Other one The 00:49:09.676 --> 00:49:11.676 Other question I had was I know the red bricks or some of them 00:49:13.447 --> 00:49:15.447 are under the road. But how much of it was 00:49:16.583 --> 00:49:18.583 actually saved to be stored somewhere else does 00:49:20.530 --> 00:49:22.530 any are they all? Actually just under the asphalt? 00:49:23.323 --> 00:49:25.323 Because that would be another project, right 00:49:26.393 --> 00:49:28.393 Bring them back up to the surface 00:49:29.329 --> 00:49:31.329 Thank you. The First two for that one. Okay, you 00:49:32.866 --> 00:49:34.866 go first. Whatever. You can answer in that portion 00:49:36.637 --> 00:49:38.637 camp and the answer is may not be that complete. But, um Ah! 00:49:40.140 --> 00:49:42.140 So for those first two questions 00:49:43.544 --> 00:49:45.544 about potential acquisition for parks 00:49:47.414 --> 00:49:49.414 and recreation. Um, obviously, that would be a great question for 00:49:51.452 --> 00:49:53.452 Parks, please the facilities or 00:49:54.254 --> 00:49:56.254 um, Asd and and Recreation 00:49:57.191 --> 00:49:59.191 cultural communities. Orvis is 00:50:01.161 --> 00:50:03.161 um, but I We would hazard a guess that 00:50:03.997 --> 00:50:05.997 Um The equity mapping that you'll that 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.000 you've had kind of an advanced look 00:50:10.304 --> 00:50:12.304 at and and that you'll see and Mayor Scully. I'm sorry I 00:50:14.408 --> 00:50:16.408 meant to include this in my previous response to your question about The 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:20.679 underserved or the need and in the area. I do know that 00:50:22.683 --> 00:50:24.683 your dinner meeting this coming Monday. I think it is with the PRC s entry 00:50:27.221 --> 00:50:29.221 board will talk about Kind of I think it's going to talk to you think there's 00:50:31.592 --> 00:50:33.592 going to be discussion of kind of from the guiding principles for Parks 00:50:35.829 --> 00:50:37.829 acquisition and, um and looking at those matters, mapping 00:50:39.700 --> 00:50:41.700 Um, King County, where we typically go for 00:50:43.570 --> 00:50:45.570 grants for, um so particular conservation futures tax. Um, and 00:50:48.108 --> 00:50:50.108 that was the source of funding that provided 100% funding for the 00:50:51.845 --> 00:50:53.845 Parcel we acquired in 2021 or 00:50:54.681 --> 00:50:56.681 2022, not far from there, um, that 00:50:58.850 --> 00:51:00.850 they use a slightly different Method for identifying that 00:51:01.455 --> 00:51:03.455 the equity Um Characteristics 00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:05.690 but, uh 00:51:06.426 --> 00:51:08.426 Hmm. Yes, I said. I think 00:51:09.129 --> 00:51:11.129 it's in in in that area. 00:51:11.665 --> 00:51:13.665 Where that was approved. 00:51:14.234 --> 00:51:16.234 And I would say that, you know. 00:51:17.404 --> 00:51:19.404 We typically go for grant funding 00:51:19.907 --> 00:51:21.907 whenever we can for either 00:51:23.176 --> 00:51:25.176 100% match that to pay for the whole thing, or 00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:28.130 50% to cover half the cost 00:51:29.616 --> 00:51:31.616 and from whatever source we can and so I think 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:34.920 This would be one of the properties that we would 00:51:36.924 --> 00:51:38.924 go for those grand dollars if we were going for this as a part Whether 00:51:40.427 --> 00:51:42.427 It's a open space. Ah ah, you know 00:51:43.130 --> 00:51:45.130 naturally area um or some 00:51:46.333 --> 00:51:48.333 other function. I'm not as well versed in all the 00:51:50.470 --> 00:51:52.470 different programs, but the one that we have had the most success with during 00:51:55.208 --> 00:51:57.208 the time that I have been years that conservation futures tax and that has 00:52:00.213 --> 00:52:02.213 a requirement of no more than 15%. Of. The parcel being in a hard surface 00:52:04.484 --> 00:52:06.484 or constructed Sort of nature and the rest of it restored to an actual condition. 00:52:09.323 --> 00:52:11.323 Um and I, you know, Basking Robbins is right next door or so basically would assume 00:52:13.694 --> 00:52:15.694 it. B eligible for all the same things that the Bank of America property 00:52:17.831 --> 00:52:19.831 would be eligible for a really to me. I think it was just be more 00:52:21.969 --> 00:52:23.969 of a Where does it, You know fall on that we sort of where the fall on 00:52:25.706 --> 00:52:27.706 the list or how does it fit into the priorities? Of 00:52:29.476 --> 00:52:31.476 Park acquisition, But again, I'm Morris. Speaking 00:52:33.180 --> 00:52:35.180 for others. I haven't asked for their comments before speaking for them 00:52:37.784 --> 00:52:39.784 and neither have we, actually. So with that question about Baskin Robbins, do 00:52:41.355 --> 00:52:43.355 you know whether it is they are who 00:52:45.125 --> 00:52:47.125 owns it are they didn't answer your question interested in listing it 00:52:49.663 --> 00:52:51.663 is it listed already or will it come up for listening at the last check 00:52:54.501 --> 00:52:56.501 at At, the time of preparing the report. There was an anything listed for sale 00:52:58.672 --> 00:53:00.672 in that area, but as has been noted Bank of America has 00:53:02.643 --> 00:53:04.643 Departed. And, So I do know that the owners 00:53:06.613 --> 00:53:08.613 of the Bank of Merica building Are, considering there options and note as 00:53:11.318 --> 00:53:13.318 far as I know? No, no decision has been made at this time as to whether 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.880 to sell or to lease it up again. Um and the basket 00:53:18.492 --> 00:53:20.492 and Robbins is owned by the adjacent 00:53:21.561 --> 00:53:23.561 property owner. The processor piano shop. Yeah 00:53:24.765 --> 00:53:26.765 and that Baskin Robbins, I believe are under the 00:53:28.969 --> 00:53:30.969 same owner. Those were on the market, I think together as an 00:53:32.773 --> 00:53:34.773 assemblage several years ago. Um, but didn't I didn't 00:53:36.977 --> 00:53:38.977 need the there was not a sale completed at that time. Oh 00:53:40.647 --> 00:53:42.647 I forget they are connected, Gone cut through right 00:53:44.451 --> 00:53:46.451 through both properties to get to the ice cream or to the pianos 00:53:48.755 --> 00:53:50.755 or something like that. So, um Yeah, that would be interesting to 00:53:53.126 --> 00:53:55.126 find out how I mean that was empty. Again. It's always 00:53:57.831 --> 00:53:59.831 great when you have a willing seller. Then. We should Then 00:54:01.401 --> 00:54:03.401 It's gone again and there'll be a building on it for 00:54:04.871 --> 00:54:06.871 the next 50 years, so Just just trying to be really 00:54:09.900 --> 00:54:11.900 open to brainstorming for the community. Thank you. 00:54:12.790 --> 00:54:14.790 Right. Thank you. I can answer the 00:54:14.748 --> 00:54:16.748 question about the red bricks 00:54:17.951 --> 00:54:19.951 Um, so to the best of our knowledge, there are red 00:54:22.222 --> 00:54:24.222 bricks still somewhere in that right of way underneath the pavement. I know 00:54:26.359 --> 00:54:28.359 when the development there on the It's kind of a non angle there 00:54:30.997 --> 00:54:32.997 Northwest and redeveloped. They did uncover some of the bricks are they 00:54:35.502 --> 00:54:37.502 did in corporate's some of those bricks into the corner treatments at 00:54:39.940 --> 00:54:41.940 one point public works did have some red bricks that they 00:54:43.777 --> 00:54:45.777 had saved. I do not know if we still have those 00:54:47.247 --> 00:54:49.247 red bricks anywhere. I know that as a rule or a 00:54:50.484 --> 00:54:52.484 was built. We did not save and protect the 00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:55.520 red bricks or, you know, stockpile 00:54:56.890 --> 00:54:58.890 then, um, it would be hard to know exactly where those 00:55:00.894 --> 00:55:02.894 bricks lie underneath the current roadway or the condition of them. 00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:07.650 Um, but we have every reason to believe there's still there. 00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:11.200 All right. Thank you council member. I'm Stone, please. Thank you 00:55:12.405 --> 00:55:14.405 council member, Poli, Um I would speak in 00:55:15.509 --> 00:55:17.509 based on the lack of that access 00:55:18.779 --> 00:55:20.779 to open public space as you can probably would predict I 00:55:21.882 --> 00:55:23.882 would be strong advocate of 00:55:24.918 --> 00:55:26.918 purchasing that land is if it ever does 00:55:28.540 --> 00:55:30.540 become available for open public space because it is a 00:55:32.192 --> 00:55:34.192 pretty severely under served area as far as like the for Lands Way north. It's 00:55:36.620 --> 00:55:38.620 a historical area. I'm not like crazy with the 00:55:39.466 --> 00:55:41.466 Cross section of 7 70 ft height buildings on 00:55:42.736 --> 00:55:44.736 that street. I just seems like, um, keep on 00:55:46.206 --> 00:55:48.206 thinking like Ballard Ave. You know, and kind of like this could 00:55:50.143 --> 00:55:52.143 be like the Ballad of for shoreline where you could 00:55:53.246 --> 00:55:55.246 have even like a walkable area 00:55:56.116 --> 00:55:58.116 with restaurants and I, like 00:55:58.685 --> 00:56:00.685 council member Roberts suggestion 00:56:02.222 --> 00:56:04.222 that we Um Have 00:56:04.825 --> 00:56:06.825 more like just a walkable 00:56:07.794 --> 00:56:09.794 walkable street. Seems like that would really make you 00:56:11.331 --> 00:56:13.331 can set aside that stretch of 00:56:14.467 --> 00:56:16.467 road apart from the rest of the rest of 00:56:18.538 --> 00:56:20.538 the city. Seems like we've got a new phenomenal opportunity 00:56:22.642 --> 00:56:24.642 here to really have a to kind of create a destination place that would 00:56:27.130 --> 00:56:29.130 be a unique area separate from what the character of a lot of the rest of shoreline 00:56:30.817 --> 00:56:32.817 Um So I am looking forward to 00:56:33.486 --> 00:56:35.486 seeing what staff comes back 00:56:36.122 --> 00:56:38.122 with, uh, you know, and kind of 00:56:38.892 --> 00:56:40.892 the same, a different model of 00:56:41.828 --> 00:56:43.828 like height restrictions. I think 00:56:44.497 --> 00:56:46.497 70 70 fetus kind of tall for what 00:56:47.500 --> 00:56:49.500 kind of a kind of 00:56:51.304 --> 00:56:53.304 intimate destination area I. Keep thinking I was in Boulder, Colorado a few 00:56:55.508 --> 00:56:57.508 years ago on their pedestrian walkway. And. It was just such a vibrant there. 00:56:59.946 --> 00:57:01.946 Downtown was such a vibrant area was like no cars. It was lots of musicians playing 00:57:03.683 --> 00:57:05.683 It was brick brick walk away. It was lots 00:57:06.553 --> 00:57:08.553 of restaurants and, um, and 00:57:09.256 --> 00:57:11.256 shops were along this kind of 00:57:12.592 --> 00:57:14.592 downtown pedestrian area. Kind of see something 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:18.960 like that, Um, along for Ireland, so I don't know if 00:57:19.966 --> 00:57:21.966 Something. You could maybe take a look at I 00:57:24.271 --> 00:57:26.271 think the prints like the pearls, Holder malls? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, it 00:57:28.608 --> 00:57:30.608 was really, really cool. So I, kind of think of vision. This 00:57:32.545 --> 00:57:34.545 This stretch of Have you for lands being 00:57:35.749 --> 00:57:37.749 similar to kind of that type of 00:57:40.921 --> 00:57:42.921 um, environment that I saw when I was in Boulder if you years ago, Alright, 00:57:44.858 --> 00:57:46.858 thanks. Council member Mark Thank you? I, too, have 00:57:48.895 --> 00:57:50.895 Heard. Some work. Um Paris un's to the Boulder pedestrian 00:57:52.299 --> 00:57:54.299 only street and I am very interested. And 00:57:55.502 --> 00:57:57.502 What possibilities are maybe to turn this 00:57:58.838 --> 00:58:00.838 into a protest. Rian only street Because. I really 00:58:02.242 --> 00:58:04.242 do think that would help be a draw. What one of the 00:58:06.313 --> 00:58:08.313 things that I wanted to better understand. 00:58:09.482 --> 00:58:11.482 On. Page three. It suggests that there 00:58:12.118 --> 00:58:14.118 are now more than 00:58:15.789 --> 00:58:17.789 700 new multi family units under construction. And 00:58:19.259 --> 00:58:21.259 in the letter that Bonnie Berry wrote 00:58:21.728 --> 00:58:23.728 there was 2647 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:28.599 The family Units Construction Council 00:58:29.769 --> 00:58:31.769 member mark, Would you be able to speak closer to 00:58:33.773 --> 00:58:35.773 your microphone. I'm sorry. 00:58:37.430 --> 00:58:39.430 There. I want to have a better understanding of 00:58:39.946 --> 00:58:41.946 how many apartment units are 00:58:42.949 --> 00:58:44.949 in this general proximity, including 00:58:45.852 --> 00:58:47.852 those that are in Richmond Highlands, which 00:58:49.456 --> 00:58:51.456 is, um, immediately adjacent to this space. 00:58:54.828 --> 00:58:56.828 Well, I had I Don't. I can give you a 00:58:57.864 --> 00:58:59.864 Maybe back of envelope calculation. I didn't 00:59:01.401 --> 00:59:03.401 bring the envelopes or my sort of pipelines 00:59:05.372 --> 00:59:07.372 spreadsheet, but what I think the graphic that you saw was 00:59:09.876 --> 00:59:11.876 from a kind of a pipeline presentation, which includes Um, projects 00:59:13.747 --> 00:59:15.747 that are proposed, Uh Sites 00:59:16.716 --> 00:59:18.716 that are in feasibility, or maybe a 00:59:19.853 --> 00:59:21.853 pre application this 700 number refers 00:59:22.889 --> 00:59:24.889 to just the product just actual 00:59:26.426 --> 00:59:28.426 construction underway that you see Right across the street from 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:32.960 y there, that's a Nearly 5000000 units and 00:59:32.966 --> 00:59:34.966 kind of two phases. 00:59:36.636 --> 00:59:38.636 Um, there's a over to 100. Think about 100 and 00:59:39.873 --> 00:59:41.873 50 unit project up there at 1 92nd. Um, but 00:59:43.430 --> 00:59:45.430 in terms of sort of overall pipeline 00:59:45.512 --> 00:59:47.512 There is also the 00:59:48.882 --> 00:59:50.882 uh, transit oriented development on the 1 00:59:51.818 --> 00:59:53.818 92nd parking ride property that can 00:59:55.555 --> 00:59:57.555 county Metro is exploring. That's been a council goal in 00:59:58.925 --> 01:00:00.925 the past that And. Um, the capacity of 01:00:02.950 --> 01:00:04.950 that potential site has been a valuation as around 01:00:04.964 --> 01:00:06.964 700 you nits. Um to the 01:00:07.567 --> 01:00:09.567 south of there in the Richmond 01:00:10.537 --> 01:00:12.537 Highlands, um on, you know, obviously the 01:00:13.473 --> 01:00:15.473 pace line apartments is there and in 01:00:16.810 --> 01:00:18.810 place, um, this relatively recent but not, you know 01:00:20.613 --> 01:00:22.613 not new or not under construction at this time. Um and you know 01:00:24.184 --> 01:00:26.184 there aren't I. Serena Jump. I'm Sorry. Yeah, I 01:00:27.554 --> 01:00:29.554 was picturing further south for some reason 01:00:30.924 --> 01:00:32.924 Yes, So, there's over 700 units in 01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:36.160 two projects on Lyndon 01:00:36.529 --> 01:00:38.529 and Arora. So the 01:00:39.399 --> 01:00:41.399 I. Serena faces front off onto Lyndon 01:00:42.902 --> 01:00:44.902 and Aurora and then the Madeira project is a similar 01:00:45.939 --> 01:00:47.939 size 385 units. I believe Both of 01:00:48.608 --> 01:00:50.608 those we anticipate will begin 01:00:51.611 --> 01:00:53.611 construction this year. Um, there's been a bit of 01:00:55.810 --> 01:00:57.810 a slowdown in financing and so obviously Housing market 01:00:58.451 --> 01:01:00.451 has not really kept up with the demand over 01:01:01.754 --> 01:01:03.754 last year or so. But those are projects that are kind of 01:01:05.358 --> 01:01:07.358 teed up when financing does kind of come back. Where are 01:01:09.662 --> 01:01:11.662 people going to take care, baby carriages and their dogs when they go on 01:01:13.900 --> 01:01:15.900 a walk? With. All these apartments. Where were they go? What's the What's 01:01:17.904 --> 01:01:19.904 the location. This closest I think again. Probably a great 01:01:21.941 --> 01:01:23.941 question for planning. But did you have an answer? Certainly, there's 01:01:26.112 --> 01:01:28.112 the park in town center right there that runs right out here is a 01:01:30.150 --> 01:01:32.150 big green space for walking. And that obviously serves access 01:01:34.530 --> 01:01:36.530 to Echo Lake Park as well. In, the clips office has the 01:01:37.223 --> 01:01:39.223 ability to put up a GIs map that shows 01:01:40.226 --> 01:01:42.226 parks and trails within this area of 01:01:43.496 --> 01:01:45.496 interested in seeing it. Yeah, I think that would be 01:01:46.533 --> 01:01:48.533 very appropriate because as, uh 01:01:49.569 --> 01:01:51.569 Council member Rams down indicated I really 01:01:52.539 --> 01:01:54.539 feel this area is under 01:01:55.542 --> 01:01:57.542 served, and I don't I think it would 01:01:58.178 --> 01:02:00.178 be nice, not to necessarily 01:02:00.947 --> 01:02:02.947 have to cross Arora, too. 01:02:03.716 --> 01:02:05.716 For people in that neighborhood to have a 01:02:07.453 --> 01:02:09.453 place to go with that many apartments Going in, so I think 01:02:10.690 --> 01:02:12.690 that's really critical. I 01:02:13.326 --> 01:02:15.326 Um, really like the 01:02:15.795 --> 01:02:17.795 concept of considering it 01:02:18.398 --> 01:02:20.398 is a capital project 01:02:21.670 --> 01:02:23.670 as commissioner McConnell Um 01:02:23.736 --> 01:02:25.736 Brought up for the possibility 01:02:27.307 --> 01:02:29.307 of getting a park. However, I 01:02:30.443 --> 01:02:32.443 Also a really a pre. She ate what Mary's mayor 01:02:33.546 --> 01:02:35.546 Sky said on concerns of 01:02:36.916 --> 01:02:38.916 Making sure that we do not 01:02:39.285 --> 01:02:41.285 That we're that we 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:44.880 are clear. What we're doing as 01:02:45.158 --> 01:02:47.158 opposed to trying to swallow more than we 01:02:48.928 --> 01:02:50.928 can handle. So. I understand that totally 01:02:52.432 --> 01:02:54.432 And just would like to say I'm very supportive of 01:02:55.501 --> 01:02:57.501 All the ideas and looking for 01:02:58.938 --> 01:03:00.938 more and I really appreciate the concept 01:03:02.242 --> 01:03:04.242 of pedestrian only If possible 01:03:06.112 --> 01:03:08.112 I don't like the cross section because it's 01:03:10.283 --> 01:03:12.283 got so many car parking. And. Ask council member, Roberts has 01:03:14.754 --> 01:03:16.754 told us many, many times. Cars are. This is not necessarily 01:03:18.825 --> 01:03:20.825 the place that we need to be parking cars so Really a pre. She 01:03:22.295 --> 01:03:24.295 ate that. Thank you. All right. Thank you. We 01:03:25.865 --> 01:03:27.865 have them on the screen. But Councilor McConnell, You want 01:03:29.902 --> 01:03:31.902 to go? I wanted us to quickly go to slide number 10 that will 01:03:34.407 --> 01:03:36.407 be clear on the way forward because you have the questions there so we can 01:03:38.544 --> 01:03:40.544 just be a restrictive and, um Just be true to the subject and be able to 01:03:42.882 --> 01:03:44.882 get it if I named where forward 01:03:46.352 --> 01:03:48.352 Consumer maternal, please. I'm not sure what slide 01:03:49.255 --> 01:03:51.255 tennis but my Question. 01:03:51.791 --> 01:03:53.791 Or my comment from being on 01:03:54.694 --> 01:03:56.694 the council. Uh many 01:03:57.897 --> 01:03:59.897 many years. I think it would be dangerous 01:04:00.733 --> 01:04:02.733 to consider. Down zoning something 01:04:03.903 --> 01:04:05.903 That. I made the suggestion of a 01:04:07.373 --> 01:04:09.373 possible grant because it's um 01:04:11.100 --> 01:04:13.100 Vacant and maybe up for sale and then near future and 01:04:14.747 --> 01:04:16.747 that's always going to present a seller. Um and we will have 01:04:18.951 --> 01:04:20.951 to pay fair We should pay for market value for it. 01:04:21.854 --> 01:04:23.854 But to but But regardless of 01:04:24.457 --> 01:04:26.457 what we may or may not want if 01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:29.260 the zoning allows for 01:04:29.729 --> 01:04:31.729 seven stories, or or or you 01:04:32.498 --> 01:04:34.498 know, whatever that that page had a lots of 01:04:35.702 --> 01:04:37.702 mixtures options, but it also had high 01:04:39.380 --> 01:04:41.380 possibility of going up. 70 70 ft. Those are 01:04:42.108 --> 01:04:44.108 That's the box that we have to live 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.440 with right right now. Correct. And 01:04:48.281 --> 01:04:50.281 And I personally as a council member really 01:04:51.384 --> 01:04:53.384 feel uncomfortable of talking about 01:04:54.587 --> 01:04:56.587 down zoning something because owners 01:04:58.691 --> 01:05:00.691 have some Idea Now of what they're Properties 01:05:02.428 --> 01:05:04.428 are worth. And. I don't think 01:05:05.264 --> 01:05:07.264 it's really smart to do something like 01:05:09.335 --> 01:05:11.335 that. Because the bill, probably a lawsuit waiting to happen. I. Don't I don't 01:05:13.773 --> 01:05:15.773 want to get into the legal stuff, but don't you think it's probably better 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.440 to see if we can get grants and do Creative things so that we don't have our 01:05:22.448 --> 01:05:24.448 Um, tall buildings around there If. That's What. The community wants and 01:05:26.486 --> 01:05:28.486 that we do have really desserts. Right now around there with 01:05:30.890 --> 01:05:32.890 all the development coming up in the new year for you, Chur. I don't know. 01:05:33.993 --> 01:05:35.993 Yeah. It would 01:05:36.896 --> 01:05:38.896 Create some legal issues if you down 01:05:40.933 --> 01:05:42.933 zone property, one of the things, of course that we have 01:05:44.537 --> 01:05:46.537 done recently with the interim regulations is that we 01:05:48.374 --> 01:05:50.374 require ground floor retail so that creates a pedestrian scale at 01:05:52.678 --> 01:05:54.678 the street level. So I think that will address some of the concerns that 01:05:56.916 --> 01:05:58.916 Councilman rent raised, but yes, as far as the 01:06:00.653 --> 01:06:02.653 height zoning designation already allows for it. I will tell 01:06:04.690 --> 01:06:06.690 you overall discussion of place making warms in my heart as 01:06:08.594 --> 01:06:10.594 a planner, but as a city manager, I have to also be able to balance 01:06:12.965 --> 01:06:14.965 the other projects and the limited funding that we have. And so we will, 01:06:17.303 --> 01:06:19.303 of course, a staff look at this and try to come up with some recommendations 01:06:21.507 --> 01:06:23.507 to come back to council on but It is a round hole. In a 01:06:25.278 --> 01:06:27.278 square peg, because we are trying. We kind of you'd 01:06:28.181 --> 01:06:30.181 this more as a Road project 01:06:30.583 --> 01:06:32.583 as opposed to a 01:06:33.686 --> 01:06:35.686 park project. Yes. We have to look 01:06:37.857 --> 01:06:39.857 at this imbalance with all the other projects that 01:06:42.261 --> 01:06:44.261 Are already upon our C, I P plan that are already funded. We have a lot 01:06:46.165 --> 01:06:48.165 of em port projects that aren't funded. Um So 01:06:49.602 --> 01:06:51.602 We'll take that all into consideration as far 01:06:52.505 --> 01:06:54.505 as the tree in the 01:06:55.641 --> 01:06:57.641 recommendation from council member Roberts in 01:06:58.644 --> 01:07:00.644 coming back with proposed amendment 01:07:02.140 --> 01:07:04.140 We have talked with Planning department and I 01:07:05.685 --> 01:07:07.685 have asked them to to look at Their work plan because 01:07:08.588 --> 01:07:10.588 it's their desire to Do a 01:07:11.491 --> 01:07:13.491 comprehensive updates the tree code. Because 01:07:14.861 --> 01:07:16.861 It's a part of the zoning code and currently going through 01:07:18.698 --> 01:07:20.698 the Comprehensive Plan update currently, the earliest that they would 01:07:22.502 --> 01:07:24.502 be able to do an overhaul to the tree code and to 01:07:26.806 --> 01:07:28.806 the zoning code would be 2025. We would recommend that we look 01:07:30.776 --> 01:07:32.776 at that comprehensively, as opposed to continuing to piecemeal. The 01:07:34.347 --> 01:07:36.347 Tree code. It is very difficult for staff to 01:07:37.884 --> 01:07:39.884 interpret and to apply consistently and accurately. 01:07:41.153 --> 01:07:43.153 And. We will recommend again looking at 01:07:45.291 --> 01:07:47.291 it comprehensively, as opposed to 01:07:48.227 --> 01:07:50.227 And exactly. I agree with you on 01:07:51.970 --> 01:07:53.970 on that that we shouldn't be. Trying to 01:07:53.799 --> 01:07:55.799 Thank you around with one 01:07:56.769 --> 01:07:58.769 lot Only. So. That's why I think the grant 01:08:00.606 --> 01:08:02.606 thing would seem to be a little bit more doable in terms of I 01:08:04.744 --> 01:08:06.744 know it messes up. You know me? I never like to bump something up to the 01:08:08.481 --> 01:08:10.481 top of the list, but we have some vacancies. In. A 01:08:11.918 --> 01:08:13.918 business is that Rarely come up. 01:08:15.540 --> 01:08:17.540 In fact it's kind of amazing that there's so much 01:08:18.424 --> 01:08:20.424 not going on on that block in a 01:08:21.427 --> 01:08:23.427 good way, I. Guess so. Okay. Thank you 01:08:24.564 --> 01:08:26.564 Scotty, please. But. Thank you. For starters if 01:08:27.967 --> 01:08:29.967 you like to speak out for Bobby, it's we've all gone 01:08:31.871 --> 01:08:33.871 So if you like to actualize Thank you, man 01:08:35.641 --> 01:08:37.641 Okay, alright, so thing, um just wanted to make sure that questions on 01:08:39.712 --> 01:08:41.712 the screen where Anderson because we have bouncing around which is great, 01:08:43.749 --> 01:08:45.749 but at the end of the day I wanted to make sure that we are given 01:08:47.887 --> 01:08:49.887 staff the directives into proceed. Thank you. 01:08:51.490 --> 01:08:53.490 Thank you and I actually want to follow up on Mr Ellington is comments. And 01:08:55.361 --> 01:08:57.361 If you're wondering if you plan this. We did, um, because 01:08:59.699 --> 01:09:01.699 it's you know, we spoke at the mayor, Deputy meeting about sort of staff 01:09:04.337 --> 01:09:06.337 workload and this is a very active council and that's great. I'm just delighted 01:09:08.774 --> 01:09:10.774 to be part of it. But when we got so many good ideas and staff is really 01:09:13.112 --> 01:09:15.112 working hard to make sure all of our good ideas getting implemented at some 01:09:17.383 --> 01:09:19.383 point we get the point of whether either they can't do a good job and all 01:09:22.488 --> 01:09:24.488 of them where they've got to start sending some of them aside. So the cautionary 01:09:27.193 --> 01:09:29.193 note. I want to sound is my suspicion is things like the tree code are going 01:09:31.597 --> 01:09:33.597 to have to be put off a bit, And. I think the tree could absolutely has 01:09:35.935 --> 01:09:37.935 to be revisited. That's like that for a while, while and I think we should 01:09:40.172 --> 01:09:42.172 comprehensively, I think Mr Ellington is going to start saying no to some 01:09:44.644 --> 01:09:46.644 of our requests and maybe saying, if not, no, then it's going to be a little 01:09:49.181 --> 01:09:51.181 while longer, and that's its job. That's Why we selected me to do it. Um 01:09:53.686 --> 01:09:55.686 what I have told him is I believe this council is going to be fully supportive 01:09:57.923 --> 01:09:59.923 of that, but that we also are going to want to have a hand in which projects 01:10:02.728 --> 01:10:04.728 get priority. Understand that they can't all be done once, so I think this 01:10:07.330 --> 01:10:09.330 is a fantastic idea? I am delighted that they blossomed into potentially 01:10:11.537 --> 01:10:13.537 acquiring park space, but I suspect that it may not happen overnight because 01:10:15.975 --> 01:10:17.975 I just don't think the other band waits for it. So I look forward to seeing 01:10:20.513 --> 01:10:22.513 how it develops and I just hope we all keep aware that we've got ground 01:10:26.585 --> 01:10:28.585 floor retail. We've got the complaint update, and we've got all kinds of 01:10:30.790 --> 01:10:32.790 other stuff going at the same time. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. I think 01:10:34.994 --> 01:10:36.994 he spoke 95% of my thoughts. I'm not sure How you going into my mind? But, 01:10:39.498 --> 01:10:41.498 Yeah. Thank you. Any other comments. There's men customer Mark. I'm Sorry, 01:10:43.602 --> 01:10:45.602 forgot to mention. So I've been to a variety of events, Mr Dom recently 01:10:48.441 --> 01:10:50.441 where they talked about available grant money and storm water is very high 01:10:52.678 --> 01:10:54.678 on the list where they're really trying to do things. That improved the 01:10:57.917 --> 01:10:59.917 storm water situation in this seems like our Ideal situation. In that area 01:11:02.154 --> 01:11:04.154 because there was a rain garden that that isn't there now and At, the head 01:11:06.625 --> 01:11:08.625 wires and McAleer and and I were Boeing Creek heads off, So I think there 01:11:10.996 --> 01:11:12.996 is a story to tell on the storm Water side that they also help Get Grant 01:11:17.200 --> 01:11:19.200 money. Thank you. Thank you so looking at the questions Lastly on the screen. This 01:11:21.507 --> 01:11:23.507 Council satisfied with the existing right of way across session and all 01:11:25.811 --> 01:11:27.811 that. Do we have a response is so you sound like it's a popular one. I do want 01:11:30.149 --> 01:11:32.149 to say in public works defense, I think You may be asked me what 01:11:34.820 --> 01:11:36.820 I thought with which part of the street we should zoom in on because the 01:11:39.291 --> 01:11:41.291 section is just Just picking the sort of picking ones spot and imagining 01:11:43.295 --> 01:11:45.295 what one particular spot or representative sample 01:11:47.233 --> 01:11:49.233 Um and I think I was anticipating the interest in sort of commercial use 01:11:51.337 --> 01:11:53.337 there and you mentioned kind of shops and restaurants are restaurants. 01:11:55.107 --> 01:11:57.107 Um, when one thing we typically here for from the 01:11:58.944 --> 01:12:00.944 development community is without on ST parking. There won't be any 01:12:03.983 --> 01:12:05.983 ground floor commercial, even if it's required it'll most likely just be 01:12:08.554 --> 01:12:10.554 vacant in this market. Maybe as an area gets 01:12:11.557 --> 01:12:13.557 Sort of You know, built up on both sides 01:12:14.827 --> 01:12:16.827 of the street, the full length with the 01:12:18.297 --> 01:12:20.297 high level of density There is enough customers there without having 01:12:22.401 --> 01:12:24.401 to have customers come by car. But as Generally speaking in the 01:12:26.305 --> 01:12:28.305 city. We've we? We've come to understand that on the street 01:12:30.276 --> 01:12:32.276 parking is pretty important for for a commercial space in a 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:36.680 ground in the mixed use building, So. That's why, and if you 01:12:37.983 --> 01:12:39.983 you look at the The the sort of the 01:12:40.953 --> 01:12:42.953 full alignment graphic. It shows where the pockets 01:12:44.590 --> 01:12:46.590 of green pockets of parking, you know, kind of different 01:12:49.280 --> 01:12:51.280 Pockets of and and and so there's some flexibility. I think there 01:12:53.265 --> 01:12:55.265 but I think what we heard from you is Uh um. There's 01:12:57.369 --> 01:12:59.369 No that cross section doesn't 01:13:00.206 --> 01:13:02.206 Represent what folks on the council would like 01:13:03.709 --> 01:13:05.709 to see happen out there, so probably not a 01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:09.460 good representative sample and, um I think we heard some 01:13:11.150 --> 01:13:13.150 interest in completely eliminating cars entirely? 01:13:13.819 --> 01:13:15.819 So, um That's a 01:13:17.556 --> 01:13:19.556 pretty easy one. Yes or no questions, so we didn't get an answer 01:13:21.894 --> 01:13:23.894 for that one. Thank you, and I'll. Just add to that relative to the cross section 01:13:25.831 --> 01:13:27.831 We do have work within public works beginning in 01:13:29.435 --> 01:13:31.435 2025 for to work on what we have. I don't if I did called Street 01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:36.390 typology ease that specifically about looking at different types of street 01:13:39.111 --> 01:13:41.111 and what are the characteristics of the streets? And so this fits in with 01:13:43.649 --> 01:13:45.649 that element? Um It wouldn't address issues like zoning or whatnot, but 01:13:47.887 --> 01:13:49.887 we can look at the amount of parking, um The other nature of it, and that would 01:13:52.358 --> 01:13:54.358 fit within that that workload. 01:13:55.594 --> 01:13:57.594 Okay. Thank you? I Think I. Something just dropped 01:13:59.198 --> 01:14:01.198 in my mind. I'm looking at rid of love man I'm looking at 01:14:02.501 --> 01:14:04.501 If all These things are going 01:14:05.638 --> 01:14:07.638 to happen. I think the conversation about trees 01:14:09.208 --> 01:14:11.208 will keep coming up for us to talk about, too. I think Council member 01:14:13.780 --> 01:14:15.780 if developments are going to happen and is Going to have 01:14:16.815 --> 01:14:18.815 environmental impact. We still have to revisit trees and talk about it 01:14:21.120 --> 01:14:23.120 And so I'm not sure how we gonna deal with that, but 01:14:24.890 --> 01:14:26.890 possibly Project project basis. When. I am positive that You may 01:14:28.527 --> 01:14:30.527 come up again. How about question 01:14:31.864 --> 01:14:33.864 number three. Question 01:14:34.867 --> 01:14:36.867 number three. I heard that council is 01:14:38.137 --> 01:14:40.137 interested in exploring acquisition of 01:14:41.674 --> 01:14:43.674 property for a pocket park. And so 01:14:44.843 --> 01:14:46.843 I think that we will take that back to The 01:14:48.147 --> 01:14:50.147 Pros plan. The plan is that right and part of 01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:53.500 your discussion with them about 01:14:54.954 --> 01:14:56.954 prioritization of acquisition part property. Yeah. That was sort 01:14:59.658 --> 01:15:01.658 of the recommendation in the staff report when I think we were thinking 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:06.960 of it more in the community center or building concept, but as a pocket 01:15:08.567 --> 01:15:10.567 park, I think the process basically remains the same. And Um, you'll have 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:15.720 a couple more bites at that apple. You. Have your Dinner meeting with the 01:15:17.943 --> 01:15:19.943 Parks Tree board on Monday, and I believe there are at least 01:15:22.548 --> 01:15:24.548 you know at least one more of not multiple pros, a plan kind of process 01:15:26.485 --> 01:15:28.485 check ins. And so I think that's the That's the That's the venue 01:15:30.389 --> 01:15:32.389 in which it makes the most sense. Um, I'm happy to promise you all 01:15:34.393 --> 01:15:36.393 kinds of things that parks folks are going to do for us, but they are probably 01:15:38.397 --> 01:15:40.397 the best best ones too. Okay. All, Right, May. I think 01:15:42.301 --> 01:15:44.301 it means cool mentioned something about the last point. I'm not sure 01:15:46.638 --> 01:15:48.638 sure about rededication of resources to further stated this or 01:15:51.143 --> 01:15:53.143 to continue with the an Alice Isse. Is that direct direction we 01:15:56.715 --> 01:15:58.715 are given Did I hear that Correct. Council member Roberts. 01:16:00.552 --> 01:16:02.552 Thank you, Councilor. Holy I want to get back? Go back to 01:16:04.390 --> 01:16:06.390 the third question. I don't want us to lose sight 01:16:08.193 --> 01:16:10.193 of the opera. I'm not opposed to putting a pocket park 01:16:12.264 --> 01:16:14.264 in that in this area. I think that we should be 01:16:15.501 --> 01:16:17.501 Not We should consider continue 01:16:18.404 --> 01:16:20.404 to pursue opportunities to provide 01:16:21.974 --> 01:16:23.974 affordable housing. Whether it conjunction with other organ ization is within 01:16:25.978 --> 01:16:27.978 the short city or with other entities. I think that one of 01:16:29.515 --> 01:16:31.515 the things that Was mentioned in the in 01:16:32.618 --> 01:16:34.618 the discussion is And. I. Think what 01:16:36.288 --> 01:16:38.288 Mr Donald was talking about. It's difficult It 01:16:40.826 --> 01:16:42.826 can be difficult for this. For this entire product. 01:16:44.290 --> 01:16:46.290 Um, area to redevelop in the way we want 01:16:46.832 --> 01:16:48.832 to must one person 01:16:50.350 --> 01:16:52.350 or one entity has 01:16:52.971 --> 01:16:54.971 What large stake in what? This How this How 01:16:55.908 --> 01:16:57.908 this area redeveloped and who 01:16:59.440 --> 01:17:01.440 has control of those properties is going 01:17:02.848 --> 01:17:04.848 to have announced size. Saying. What 01:17:06.180 --> 01:17:08.180 happens whether we can get Uh, whether we have to put degree 01:17:09.655 --> 01:17:11.655 do we encourage Walk ability to what to agree 01:17:12.858 --> 01:17:14.858 to. We encourage restaurants. Community 01:17:15.461 --> 01:17:17.461 spaces. Um I think 01:17:18.497 --> 01:17:20.497 that we've I don't want to 01:17:21.667 --> 01:17:23.667 disturb limit ourselves and our imagination 01:17:25.370 --> 01:17:27.370 too. Let's You find money for a park here 01:17:28.774 --> 01:17:30.774 I think I still think that with a number of entities, including 01:17:32.711 --> 01:17:34.711 shortly cards looking for space that I think this would be an awesome 01:17:37.349 --> 01:17:39.349 space for two partnering Awesome Opportunity apartment with found Thank 01:17:41.320 --> 01:17:43.320 you, Council member Bobby. Thank you, Councilor Mark 01:17:45.900 --> 01:17:47.900 Yes, I kind of like would like to talk about both questions. One 01:17:48.627 --> 01:17:50.627 end Question three. The 90 FT is meant 01:17:51.930 --> 01:17:53.930 is unusual. If we're talking about a pocket park. It is only a 01:17:55.467 --> 01:17:57.467 very small, tiny area of that. Which means the rest 01:17:59.204 --> 01:18:01.204 of for lands still has a 90 ft easement that we 01:18:02.774 --> 01:18:04.774 should consider and that cross section maybe beautiful. 01:18:06.278 --> 01:18:08.278 For. Other links of it, So. I just want to make sure 01:18:09.715 --> 01:18:11.715 that we're remembering. Ah, that this This is 01:18:12.784 --> 01:18:14.784 three segments and that the whole 01:18:15.454 --> 01:18:17.454 thing is got it. That kind of 01:18:18.657 --> 01:18:20.657 use mint. That's That's worthwhile. I am not aware 01:18:22.427 --> 01:18:24.427 if the 90 ft is all of for Lynn's, but definitely this 01:18:27.232 --> 01:18:29.232 diagonal section between a roar A and Lyndon is 95 ft. 01:18:30.536 --> 01:18:32.536 But funniness I think I think 01:18:32.971 --> 01:18:34.971 it is 90 ft in 01:18:35.741 --> 01:18:37.741 Okay South sections, and then the 01:18:39.178 --> 01:18:41.178 other diagonal. So. That's my only point is that 01:18:42.281 --> 01:18:44.281 is it's a both can happen. So 01:18:45.450 --> 01:18:47.450 Thank you. Thank you any other 01:18:49.188 --> 01:18:51.188 comments or questions? I just want 01:18:52.357 --> 01:18:54.357 to say real quickly. I think I don't want to throw 01:18:55.827 --> 01:18:57.827 out the existing right away thing because it could 01:18:59.631 --> 01:19:01.631 Happen with depending on What we 01:19:02.534 --> 01:19:04.534 Oh, You know you and parks 01:19:05.370 --> 01:19:07.370 and whoever come up with the recommendation. 01:19:08.730 --> 01:19:10.730 So We're very open to 01:19:11.109 --> 01:19:13.109 some awesome ideas. 01:19:13.745 --> 01:19:15.745 Thank you Okay. Thank you Any 01:19:16.548 --> 01:19:18.548 other thoughts. Oh, 01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:21.840 If not that was the last item 01:19:25.624 --> 01:19:27.624 on the agenda. Thank you for your time